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Online Tientai

Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« on: June 01, 2019, 09:09:52 AM »
Hi .. to all members .

I made a divination concerning the possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .

There are many airspace violations by Turkish airplanes on the border with Turkey ..
The Greeks are watching with anxiety the evolution of this situation .. !!
So I asked the question on 24 - 5 - 2019 ...
Greece will have a serious problem with neighbors Turkey .. right up the end of this year? (year Hai-water) ...!!
 

Later on I will post my evaluation  ..
Tientai
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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2019, 02:17:59 PM »
First of all I saw the 6 clashing Hexagram = Greece is defensive country after all .. so innocent .
It could mean this competition will soon released.  Or  means there will be no trouble...

Examining the Hexagram

1. The upper Gua is active on its 4th and 6th line .. Greek party is caring to counteract this competition with Other Party (Turkey ).. lower Gua unmoving ..!!

2. The condition is serious but without any fight  .. = Other Official 3rd line is unmoving ..

3. The triangle formation of Brother Mao 6th self line is wellestablished and protected by the yearly EB Has water .. that nourishes it  and exist on one part of triangle ..(4th changed line)

4. the Triangular alliance of Mao can produce Si fire Child 5th unmoving line ... = Child is hope of innocent .. or population / or the Greek organized competitor .. !!

5. If Child is in Wang stage and Official in xiu then there is an advantageous outcome.. at least  not hurting each other. ..

6 . Difficult month is when arriving  You Metal... !!

7. Prediction is made right up Hai water ending year ...

You have any better idea  ?
Tt.

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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2019, 06:28:59 PM »
Self line = Greece
Others line = Turkey

1. The Wood San He is formed (Greece), but the Metal San He is not (Turkey). 
2. Others line is not a moving line.
3.  There are two Wealth lines: Wei is associated to Greece, while Chou is associated to Turkey.
4.  Chou is in Kong Wang
5.  In the cycle of five elements, Metal overcomes Wood. 
6.  Parent line Hai has hidden movement.  In this case, I interpret this as a tripartite body or international organization (like United Nations or so).  Because parents give protection. 

Conclusion:
Based on the above, Turkey shows the signs of attacking Greece, but they do not have strong reasons to do so.  A tripartite body or international organization gives more support for and strengthens Greece.  Parent line produces Self line (support), and San He is formed (strengthening).

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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2019, 07:38:13 PM »
Thank you master @JLim .. very organized answer

 I had behind my mind the alliance of San he  .. and for sure with a part of it (Parent Hai water line) represent United Nations  .. !!

1.  United Nations and NATO .. isn't protective Organizations of Nation's borderlines ?
1a. Brother 4th line is as you correctly described  ..!!
1b. Brother 2nd line I think is borderline s among Greece and Turkey that on violation urge.

3. How Brother Hai water line has hidden move ? .. I think is on month break ..!!

Thanks for your help.
Tt

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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2019, 08:11:35 PM »
There is only reasonable that 2nd brother Hai water line to be with exact the same meaning ... as protection Perhaps from U.N. or NATO  ..
Turkey has low protection  (as a member of these Organizations ).. to ment this 2nd brother line on month break ..!!

And Greece with San He  be much promising  ..!!

You mean somthing like this  ?

Tt.

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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2019, 08:18:14 PM »
Hi Tientai, oops I got the Day and Month reversed when looking at the chart in your original post. Normally I look at Chinese programs where the order is Month and Day.

Indeed you are correct it's a Month Break. Hmmm.... In that case, the Wood San He is not formed.

But Self line is a moving line, while Others line is not. I still don't see enough impetus for Others to attack Self.

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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2019, 08:35:59 PM »
Few days left until Si fire Month is finished ..!! (month break is finished  !!)
Next monthi will be Wu fire ..

My query is if right up the end of this year Hai water. . there is any war with our neighbours...


On this case with Si month San He is not properly established  ..may  I think that next month this San He will continue ?

...
Tt
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Re: Query: Possibility for a war among Greece and Turkey. .
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2019, 09:50:54 AM »
1.  United Nations and NATO .. isn't protective Organizations of Nation's borderlines ?

Oh, this is very near us(we have border with both of them). It isn't a big thing by itself, though they do it all the time. First I guess some historical info to have context on why they would probably want to avoid it.

Both Turkey and Greece are members of NATO. NATO is military, EU is trade union more or less.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_NATO
My country is as well.

EU cares a lot about its borders, so the relations with Turkey are very complicated lately, mostly because of all the refuges from Syria currently in Turkey.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/research/syrian-refugees-turkey-long-road-ahead

Now, Greece is member of EU, but Turkey is also looked at as a candidate on its way to joining...

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/eu-countries/

At the same time Greece had a lot of economic problems not long ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/business/international/greece-debt-crisis-euro.html

Anyway, in here in our news we don't have a lot of info about the event, as it happens every few months and it has been way worse before. For example for 2015 they have made 31 air violations getting into the Greece space, as there are conflicts about a specific zone and in the years before once they even got to the capital before being escorted out.
So for now it seems same as before, has happened a lot already and it isn't really different then anything we have seen.

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