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General discussions => FREE Divination Request => Topic started by: Tientai ✝️ on October 18, 2018, 09:54:00 AM
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I said to him after a quick reading:
1. That he will recover soon ( six clash hexagram for an acute illness means quick recovering )
2. Disease is not serious to hurt him .. officer is Empty Kong ...
3. He is exhausted by this condition wei EB hurt Hai water Parent Self line ..
4. Too many Wife wealth lines ...?? ..
4a. Other Chou 1st moving line that change to Zi water . Chou secretly move by the clash of the Wei daily EB.
4b. 6th advanced wife/wealth line .. and Wu (cure) hiding line at the end will Join with Wei ..
Maybe he will exhaust by antibiotics but behind on this there is a cure on the ramparts. !!!
TIENTAI
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[1. That he will recover soon ( six clash hexagram for an acute illness means quick recovering )
- Wei Earth and Chou Earth move to overcome Self Line Hai (Water). This line is also overcome by Month and Day. He seems to be in a very bad health condition.
- Wu Fire (hidden 4th line) cannot come out in this case. So it cannot overcome You (Illness). Medicine cannot handle this illness.
2. Disease is not serious to hurt him .. officer is Empty Kong ...
This is Fake Kong Wang (Emptiness), because they are strong by Month and Day. And anyway, the day after this hexagram is raised, Shen and You are no longer Kong Wang Branches.
That's how I interpret the hexagram, which does not seem to reflect the situation. The only thing that complies is the Officer line being You Metal in the 5th line position. This is in line with skin problem on the forehead. In your opinion, what could have caused such a skin rash?
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Dear @JLim .. all hi .
I don't understand how this skin problem is seen in the forehead .. but this area from Chinese diagnostic charts concerns Lung disease ... and indirectly the immunity.
My friend is a person that don't trust so much Chinese medicinals ...
I could support him much better with some TCM medicines before he tossed the coins .. but after tossing I understand that Augmentin 1000mlgr is very strong and unfriendly to his overall condition.
I suggest him to follow a TCM prescription just as a modification of Ma Huang Tang ... that is convenient to his low immunity due to interior Cold in Lungs .
Now he is recovering with many hours in bed .. he feels exhausted but his skin rash is near to disappear ..!!
He has 3 days more to finish with antibiosis ..
I think he follows the hard way ... and I don't know if he erase this inner cold condition permanently.
Said that for every autumn he takes easily antibiotics. ..
Thanks for help
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Dear all ...
I will try to write a therapeutic proposal. . Or remedy of this case
1. After Xu earth month Hai water is reaching...
On this month and or a day with Hai water Lin with Shi self line (self-bound).. so Ji Shen is unmoving and bound.
2. On this Hai water Month /and or Day there is an alliance formation of Hai ÷Yin (Liu he ) .. Hai water can reinforce Yuanshen Yin wood .
3. On this Hai water month there is an occasion for Cure..
Explain : On Shi self line is hidden the cure or medicine now difficult to reach out ... but in Hai water month the Shi self Hai water Parent line is Lin or (self-bound)... a day inside this month just as Yin or Mao or Si or Wu can a therapist find an opportunity to cure this recurrent interior Cold condition..using hot TCM prescription.
... on this case Wu fire ( Cure or Medicines ) can not hidden anymore and joint with 6th Wei earth advancing line causing this don't advance.. and being stable .
That's all I am thinking ..
Any suggestions?
Tientai
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My friend is a person that don't trust so much Chinese medicinals ...
I could support him much better with some TCM medicines before he tossed the coins ..
I see. Is he also in doubt about the Chinese method of coin tossing?
but after tossing I understand that Augmentin 1000mlgr is very strong and unfriendly to his overall condition.
I'm not a doctor, but I know augmentin, and 1000 milligram dosage is heavy.
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I see. Is he also in doubt about the Chinese method of coin tossing?
... no not at all. .!!
I have helped him sometimes with Liu Yao...!!
BTW today he will end with Augmentin he is apparently well on recovering ..
Still I insist he needs additional help and support for this annual recurring bad immunity ..!!
Tientai
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BTW today he will end with Augmentin he is apparently well on recovering ..
Still I insist he needs additional help and support for this annual recurring bad immunity ..!!
Is it okay not to finish the prescribed antibiotics? :o
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Is prescribed from dermatologist to take Augmentin for six days ..
And today is the last day of antibiosis... i was wrong when said on some quote before that he will finishes with antibiosis after 3 days ...
Tomorrow he will visit his Doctor for further follow up .. !!
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His line is very week from all this Asset though... Maybe for some reason real world problems related to wealth or females are causing the problem. As the illness itself is supporting his line.
Very interesting how it will turn out when Hai month comes... Officer line will be even weaker, not so much earth to attack... I guess it may be better when the month ends, but there seems to be something more going on in his life that has relation to this.
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His line is very week from all this Asset though... Maybe for some reason real world problems related to wealth or females are causing the problem. As the illness itself is supporting his line.
I can agree with you @Gmuli ...
My friend is infected by a contagious disease.. dermatologist (woman) diagnosed it but said just today.
Fortunately enough his infection is gone...
Perhaps he infected by another Woman ... his job is Tuina Masseur .. he rarely keeps the disinfection and clearance rules ..!!
Thanks anyway
Tientai
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- Wu Fire (hidden 4th line) cannot come out in this case. So it cannot overcome You (Illness). Medicine cannot handle this illness.
Dear @JLim I want to say something very interesting on this case ... !!!
.. the cure of skin rash was ok .. it was cased by infection.
The course of recovering was somehow strange for this pus rash is not erupted to outside..
It follows the inner way in blood circulation .. so the rash disappeared.
This was very dangerous for viruses could hurt inner organs ( or cause meningitis ).
I said this because during taking antibiosis he got a swelling to his eye orbital conca ... it declined later.
That's all ..
Tientai
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His line is very week from all this Asset though... Maybe for some reason real world problems related to wealth or females are causing the problem. As the illness itself is supporting his line.
That's a good point.
.. the cure of skin rash was ok .. it was cased by infection.
The course of recovering was somehow strange for this pus rash is not erupted to outside..
It follows the inner way in blood circulation .. so the rash disappeared.
This was very dangerous for viruses could hurt inner organs ( or cause meningitis ).
I said this because during taking antibiosis he got a swelling to his eye orbital conca ... it declined later.
Do you mean that he did not need the antibiotics?
Officer coming with Serpent: not surprising that the illness is strange.
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Dear @JLim ...
No .. the antibiotics are needed much more for controlling and killing the viruses flowing to inner path... !!
Lastly he said to me that on the 2nd day of Augmentin his mother made an ointment and spread over his rash ... just for one night .. he noticed the next day that the rash stop erupted outwards. .!! Then followed the swelling on eye conca ... he don't stop antibiosis ..
I noticing normally 2 wife / wealth eaŕths in his chart ..
1. His mother
2. Dermatologist (woman)
How you evaluate this ?
Thanks
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Dear @JLim ...
Tientai, it's not necessary to mention my name, please, because I already get a notification due to my participation in this topic.
I noticing normally 2 wife / wealth eaŕths in his chart ..
No, look again, please, there are three Wife/Wealth lines.
1. His mother
2. Dermatologist (woman)
How you evaluate this ?
Although he has a mother, his mother would usually be irrelevant in this specific case.
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Sorry for this disturbing .. !!!
Many thanks for all.
Tientai
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(http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2018/10/18/How-the-state-of-health-would-develop.png)
1. After Xu earth month Hai water is reaching...
On this month and or a day with Hai water Lin with Shi self line (self-bound).. so Ji Shen is unmoving and bound.
2. On this Hai water Month /and or Day there is an alliance formation of Hai ÷Yin (Liu he ) .. Hai water can reinforce Yuanshen Yin wood .
3. On this Hai water month there is an occasion for Cure..
Explain : On Shi self line is hidden the cure or medicine now difficult to reach out ... but in Hai water month the Shi self Hai water Parent line is Lin or (self-bound)... a day inside this month just as Yin or Mao or Si or Wu can a therapist find an opportunity to cure this recurrent interior Cold condition..using hot TCM prescription.
... on this case Wu fire ( Cure or Medicines ) can not hidden anymore and joint with 6th Wei earth advancing line causing this don't advance.. and being stable .
One more case with "Dual modulation method '
A: part
Parents in contest with Officer
(> If Ghost line is in Wang stage then is condition light, easily treatable )"
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Hi Tientai, you said recently in the topic of "Causes of Disease" that when Self is surrounded by 2 officers, it leads to very bad outcome. We see that this is happening with this hexagram, but the patient got cured quickly.
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Hi Tientai, you said recently in the topic of "Causes of Disease" that when Self is surrounded by 2 officers, it leads to very bad outcome. We see that this is happening with this hexagram, but the patient got cured quickly.
Hi @JLim ..
Seem the same root Hexagrams .. indeed but :
1. On (http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2018/10/18/How-the-state-of-health-would-develop.png)
this case the 2 Officers are strong
enough (by month ) to produce Self - parent line ..
Plus 2 Officers are not moving but in fake Void (Kong wang)...
2. On (http://fivearts.org/fileserver/images/2018/08/02/ApersonmadeaDivinationforhisOwnillness.png)
2 Officers aren't so strong enough (by month) to produce Self parent line ...
Plus 1 officer is moving ...
Also Self line is on clash break with Se month ..
This is "Dual modulation method" A: part (the reverse of what one normally expect is true ) ..
One may be very cautious when use this method ...
I said not use it all the time but when is needed ... !! (under some consideration ...!!)
I use it with moderation ... and is a reply to my unanswered query ..
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Dear @The-Monk .. and all hi ..
Please could you advice me for a difficult issue I have faced on medical quarries. ..
A. Someone asking for his father illness ...
Then Yongshen taken as Parent line
1.If Self has Official /Ghost line ..how to judge it when in month break, Untimely and or day inhibition or when is timely and day produces it ?
2. How to judge its Yuanshen ?
B. A husband asking for his wife illness
Then Yongshen is Wife/wealth line...
1.If Self line has Official /Ghost line ..how to judge it when in month break, Untimely and or day inhibition or when is timely and day produces it ?
2. what is the meaning of Yongshen that support Self Official /Ghost line ?
C.A wife asking for her husband illness
Then Yongshen is Official /Ghost line ...
1.If Self line has Official /Ghost line ..how to judge it when in month break, Untimely and or day inhibition or when is timely and day produces it ?
2. How to judge Yuanshen Wife/Wealth line ??
Hope will have a look to my consideration...
BTW: The 2 Officers surrounding Self line is an indication of something is very serious going to happen on health .. it seems just as "Squeezers " ..in MangPai. .. but again depends of the strength of 2 Officers (squeezes ) over Self Parent line ... !!
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