Hi forum members,

For those wondering, my query was triggered by reading Tientai’s February 27, 2018 post “Quiz 14-...Divination about illness”, an example from 《增刪卜易》.

又如申月己丑日。Example: Shen month, Ji Chou day.
占病。Divination about illness.
得雷風恒。Obtained Thunder-Wind Constancy [hexagram]
壬申命。Ren Shen Ming.

財   戌   丶丶應
鬼   申   丶丶
子   午   丶
鬼   酉   丶世
父   亥   丶
財   丑   丶丶

I extract Tientai's translation below:
世身又落旬空，卦身又临月破，
the Shi Shen* [4th Wu Offspring yao] is in Empty Days,
Gua Shen ** [ Fu yin Brother Yin - wood ] facing the Month Break {po)
*世身 (Subject Body)
**卦身 (Hexagram Body)

Determining Guà Shēn, if we apply alternatives:
(A), we get Shēn (申)
(B), we get Yín (寅), as Tientai did.
(C), we also get Shēn (the month)

Cheers,

Hi all,

A technical question.

Are the methods described below the only ways to determine (1) Self/Subject Body (世身, Shì Shēn) and (2) Hexagram Body (卦身, Guà Shēn)?

(1) Shì Shēn (世身, Self Body)

Look at the Self line’s (世爻) branch (支).

If the Self line branch is:
•   Zǐ (子) or Wŭ (午), Self Body is found in the 1st line of the hexagram;
•   Chŏu (丑) or Wèi (未), 2nd line;
•   Yín (寅) or Shēn (申), 3rd;
•   Măo (卯) or Yŏu (酉), 4th;
•   Chén (辰) or Xū (戌), 5th;
•   Sì (巳) or Hài (亥), 6th.

(2) Guà Shēn (卦身, Hexagram Body)

Here’s where it gets interesting. There appears to be at least three alternate ways to identify the Hexagram Body:

Alternative (A)
Identify whether the hexagram’s first line is Yīn (陰) or Yáng (陽).
•   If Yīn (陰), assign Wŭ (午) to the 1st line; Wèi (未) to 2nd line; Shēn (申), 3rd; Yŏu (酉), 4th; Xū (戌), 5th; and Hài (亥), 6th.
•   If Yáng (陽), assign Zǐ (子) to the 1st line; Chŏu (丑) to 2nd line; Yín (寅), 3rd; Măo (卯), 4th; Chén (辰), 5th; and Sì (巳), 6th.
The branch assigned to the Self line (世爻) then is the Hexagram Body.

Alternative (B)
Similar to Alternative A, except we start with the Self line's (世爻) Yīn (陰) or Yáng (陽), not the first line's.

Alternative (C)
Look at the month branch (月支) at the time of divining/casting of hexagram. If that branch can be found in the hexagram, then that branch is the Hexagram Body.
•   This approach is also called Month Body (月身, Yuè Shēn).

Wild Crane
My impression is that the authors of Zēngshān Bǔyì (增刪卜易, Additions and Deletions to Divining Changes) did not have a high opinion of using Self Body and Hexagram Body.

For your thoughts.

Thank you.

Hi Moonchin,
Thank you. A very interesting article indeed!

Hi all,
I’m not a practitioner, just a casual (and, frankly, slow-learning) student. Here are some simple thoughts.

I see Xuan Kong 玄空 (also called Yuan Kong (元空) in some books) as the balance of Yang (陽) and Yin (陰), one (一) and zero (零), and solid (寔) and empty (空). For me, the key word is ‘balance’. As Moonchin highlights: “interaction of Dragon (mountains) and Water (River)”.

That’s why I wonder whether some people’s aggressive activation of a single star (e.g. annual star #8) in Xuan Kong Flying Stars (玄空飛星) makes sense . Where is the balance? I don’t pretend to have the answer .

Cheers.

(continuing from preceding post)

ZSBY 1691 version
Source book
《增删卜易》
Additions and Deletions To Divining Changes

Table of contents (總目)
Chinese text   Translation
卷之一   Volume 1
八卦章第一   Chapter 1   Eight Trigrams Diagram
卦象圖章第二   Chapter 2   Guà Image Diagram
八宮章第三   Chapter 3   Eight Palaces
渾天甲子章第四   Chapter 4   Mixed Heaven Jiǎzǐ
六親歌章第五   Chapter 5   Six Relations (Kins) Song
世應章第六   Chapter 6   Subject-Object (or Self-Other)
動變章第七   Chapter 7   Moving Transforming
用神章第八   Chapter 8   Useful Spirit (Useful God)
用神元神忌神仇神章第九   Chapter 9   Useful Spirit, Source Spirit, Fearful (Dreadful) Spirit, Hateful (Revenging) Spirit
元神忌神衰旺章第十   Chapter 10   Source Spirit, Fearful (Dreadful) Spirit, Declining-Prosperous
五行相生章第十一   Chapter 11   Five Elements Producing (Generating)
五行相剋章第十二   Chapter 12   Five Elements Countering (Restricting)
剋處逢生章第十三   Chapter 13   Countering Place Meeting Producing
動靜生剋章第十四   Chapter 14   Moving, Quiet (Unmoving), Produce, Counter
動變生剋沖合章第十五   Chapter 15   Moving Transforming To Produce, Counter, Clash, Combine
四時旺相章第又十五   Chapter 15A   Four Seasons Prospering-Strong
月將章第十六   Chapter 16   Month Commander
日辰章第十七   Chapter 17   Day Branch

卷之二   Volume 2
六神章第十八   Chapter 18   Six Deities (Spirits/Guardians) (Liù Shén)
六合章第十九   Chapter 19   Six Combine (Six Harmony)
六沖章第二十   Chapter 20   Six Clash
三刑章第二十一   Chapter 21   Three Punishment
暗動章第二十二   Chapter 22   Silently (Hidden) Moving (Àn dòng)
動散章第二十三   Chapter 23   Moving Dispersing
卦變生剋墓絕章第二十四   Chapter 24   Guà Transforming To Produce, Counter, Tomb Or Extinct
反伏章第二十五   Chapter 25   Reverse, Hidden [Cry]
旬空章第二十六   Chapter 26   Ten Day-Void
生旺墓絕章   Chapter 26A   Birth, Peak (Prosperous), Tomb (Grave), Extinct
各門類題頭總注章   Chapter 26B   Summary Notes On Category Names
各門類應期總注章   Chapter 26C   Summary Notes On Category Response Timing
歸魂遊魂章   Chapter 26D   Returning Soul, Wandering Soul

卷之三   Volume 3
月破章第二十七   Chapter 27   Month Breaker
飛伏神章第二十八   Chapter 28   Flying, Hidden Spirits
進退章第二十九   Chapter 29   Advancing Spirit, Retreating Spirit
隨鬼入墓章第三十   Chapter 30   Follow Ghost Enter Tomb (Grave)
獨發章第三十一   Chapter 31   Single Showing
兩現章第三十二   Chapter 32   Double Appearance
星煞章第三十三   Chapter 33   Auxiliary Stars (Stars and Killings)

卷之四   Volume 4
增刪黃金策千金賦章第三十四   Chapter 34   Additions And Deletions To Golden Verses’s (Golden Strategy) Thousand Gold Poem

卷之五   Volume 5
天時章第三十五   Chapter 35   Weather Timing

卷之六   Volume 6
身命章第三十六   Chapter 36   Fate
終身財福章第三十七   Chapter 37   Lifetime Wealth and Good-Fortune
終身功名有無章第三十八   Chapter 38   Lifetime Fame Attainment
壽元章第三十九   Chapter 39   Longevity
趨避章第四十   Chapter 40   Avoidance
父母壽元章第四十一   Chapter 41   Parents’ Longevity
兄弟章第四十二   Chapter 42   Brothers
夫婦章第四十三   Chapter 43   Husband-And-Wife
子嗣章第四十四   Chapter 44   Children

卷之七   Volume 7
學業章第四十五   Chapter 45   Academics
治經章第四十六   Chapter 46   Studying Classics
延師章第四十七   Chapter 47   Long-Term Teacher
求名章第四十八   Chapter 48   Seeking Fame
童試章第四十九   Chapter 49   Lower-Level Examinations
歲考科考章第五十   Chapter 50   Preliminary Imperial Examinations
增廩章第五十一   Chapter 51   Increase Granary
考遺才章第五十二   Chapter 52   Examining Approved Talent
發案掛榜章第五十三   Chapter 53   Submit A Case, Official Announcement
鄉試章第五十四   Chapter 54   Prolonged Examinations
庭試會試章第五十五   Chapter 55   Province-Level Examination, City-Level Examination
陞選候補章又第五十五   Chapter 55A   Promotion Candidate
陞選何方章第五十六   Chapter 56   Promotion Location
在任吉凶章第五十七   Chapter 57   Government Job, Auspicious Or Not
援例章第五十八   Chapter 58   Assisting Examples
武試章第五十九   Chapter 59   Martial Arts Examination
投麾效用入武從軍章第六十   Chapter 60   Surrender’s Usefulness, Enter Military, Join Army
署印謀差章第六十一   Chapter 61   Signing With Seal, Seeking Employment

卷之八   Volume 8
面聖上書叩閱獻策條陳劾奏章第六十二   Chapter 62   Meeting Emperor, Writing Petition, Knocking Door, Offering Advice, Submitting Proposal, Impeachment Memorial
防叅劾慮大計章   Chapter 62A   Preventing Impeachment, Considering Major Plans With Matters Unresolved
養親告病辭官章第六十三   Chapter 63   Adopting Relatives, Reporting Illness, Resigning Office
修陵修河一切營造公務防患章第六十四   Chapter 64   Repairing Mausoleums, Rivers and Other Projects, Creating Public Works, Averting Dangers
僧官道紀醫官雜職陰陽等官章第六十五   Chapter 65   Monks, Officials, Medical Officers, Miscellaneous Jobs, Taoist Temple Officials
功名到何品級章第六十六   Chapter 66   Fame Height
子占父功名章第六十七   Chapter 67   Son Divining About Father’s Fame

卷之九   Volume 9
求財章第六十八   Chapter 68   Seeking Wealth
謁貴求財章第六十九   Chapter 69   Attending The Nobility, Seeking Wealth
爲貴人奔走效力求財章第七十   Chapter 70   Working For Noble People While Seeking Wealth
開行開店及各色鋪面章第七十一   Chapter 71   Opening Banks, Stores And Various Types Of Shops
投行損益章第七十二   Chapter 72   Joining A Bank, Profit And Loss
囤貨賣貨章第七十三   Chapter 73   Stocking Goods, Selling Goods
賣貨宜守宜動章第七十四   Chapter 74   Keeping Safe When Selling Goods
徃何方買賣章第七十五   Chapter 75   Where to Buy and Sell
買何貨爲吉章第七十六   Chapter 76   What to Buy as Auspicious
借貸章第七十七   Chapter 77   Lending and Borrowing
放債索債章第七十八   Chapter 78   Money Lending, Debt Collecting
買賣六畜章第七十九   Chapter 79   Buying and Selling Livestock
博戲章第八十   Chapter 80   Gambling
請會搖會章第八十一   Chapter 81   Joint Loan, Mutual Loan
行險求才章第八十二   Chapter 82   Taking Risks to Seek Wealth

卷之十   Volume 10
婚姻章第又八十二   Chapter 82A   Marriage
此婚子嗣有無章第八十三   Chapter 83   This Marriage, Have Heirs Or Not
此婚有宜於父母否章第八十四   Chapter 84   This Marriage’s Suitability For My Parents
納寵章第八十五   Chapter 85   Accepting Favors
娶離婦跳娼婦章第八十六   Chapter 86   Marrying A Divorced Woman Or Prostitute
胎孕章第八十七   Chapter 87   Pregnancy
問產婦安否章第八十八   Chapter 88   Asking About Mother’s Safety
產期章第八十九   Chapter 89   Baby Delivery Date
嬰童否泰章第九十   Chapter 90   Infant Not Safe
出行章第九十一   Chapter 91   Travel
舟行章第九十二   Chapter 92   Boat Trip
同舟共行第九十三   Chapter 93   Same Boat, Together Travel
行人章第九十四   Chapter 94   Travelers

卷之十一   Volume 11
防非避訟章第九十五   Chapter 95   Preventing and Avoiding Unlawful Litigation
闘毆爭競章第九十六   Chapter 96   Fighting And Competing
興詞舉訟章第九十七   Chapter 97   Starting Litigation
已定重罪章第九十八   Chapter 98   Convicted Felon
疾病章第九十九   Chapter 99   Illness
痘疹章第一百   Chapter 100   Smallpox
病源章第一百一   Chapter 101   Illness Causes
鬼神章第一百二   Chapter 102   Ghost and Spirits
延醫章第一百三   Chapter 103   Extending Medical Treatment
醫卜徃治章第一百四   Chapter 104   Medical Divination and Treatment

卷之十二   Volume 12
家宅章第一百五   Chapter 105   Family Home
蓋造買宅賃宅章第一百六   Chapter 106   Build, Buy or Rent a House
創造宮室章第一百七   Chapter 107   Setting Up A Worship Room
修方動土章第一百八   Chapter 108   Repairing Houses, Breaking Ground
遷居過火章第一百九   Chapter 109   Moving Residence Excessively
歸宅入火章第一百十   Chapter 110   Returning To House On Fire [Day]
入宅六親吉凶章第一百十一   Chapter 111   Entering House, Six Relations (Kins), Auspicious Or Not
馬房豬圈章第一百十二   Chapter 112   Horse Stable, Pig Sty
舊宅章第一百十三   Chapter 113   Old House
同居章第一百十四   Chapter 114   Together Residing
蓋造官衙章第一百十五   Chapter 115   Building Official Office
占衙宇章第一百十六   Chapter 116   Divining About Government-Office Room
蓋造寺院章第一百十七   Chapter 117   Building Temples
塋塟章第一百十八   Chapter 118   Tomb Burial
尋地章第一百十九   Chapter 119   Seeking Land
占地形勢章第一百二十   Chapter 120   Divining About Land’s Shape-and-Form
卜得地於何時章第一百二十一   Chapter 121   Divining Obtaining Land Timing
得地於何方章第一百二十二   Chapter 122   Obtaining Land Location
占地師章第一百二十三   Chapter 123   Divining About Feng Shui Master
點穴章第一百二十四   Chapter 124   Marking The Lair (Meridian Spot)
謀地偷塟章第一百二十五   Chapter 125   Seeking Land For Burial
祖塋舊塚章第一百二十六   Chapter 126   Ancestral Tomb, Old Burial-Mound
因何事所傷章第一百二十七   Chapter 127   Reason Why A Matter s ‘Injured’
修補秘法章第一百二十八   Chapter 128   Mending Secret Method
再占修補吉凶章第一百二十九   Chapter 129   Again Divining About Mending, Auspicious Or Not
新亡附塟祖塋章第一百三十   Chapter 130   Newly Deceased Ancestors Burial

Each of the 12 volumes has a theme i.e.
•   Volume 1. Guà Lines, Spirits and Elements
•   Volume 2. Six Deities, Combine and Clash
•   Volume 3. Moving Spirits
•   Volume 4. Golden Verses (Golden Strategy)
•   Volume 5. Weather
•   Volume 6. Lifetime Fate
•   Volume 7. Academics and Employment
•   Volume 8. Serving The Emperor
•   Volume 9. Making Money
•   Volume 10. Marriage and Travel
•   Volume 11. Litigation and Illness
•   Volume 12. Buildings and Tombs

Regards.

Hi all,

In the spirit of Tientai’s translation of part of Zēngshān Bǔyì’s (ZSBY) table of contents (see https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=397.0), I’m posting two near-identical (some of the variations are identified by being in blue font) translations of the Table of Contents for:

• ZSBY year 2006 version (as kindly provided by Dao and JLim (see https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=1878.msg16142;topicseen)).
• ZSBY year 1691 version (downloaded from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GGZBCK416_%E5%A2%97%E5%88%AA%E5%8D%9C%E6%98%93_%E5%8D%9C%E7%AD%AE%E6%AD%A3%E5%AE%97.pdf)

Comparing the versions:

• ZSBY 2006 uses simplified Chinese characters, ZSBY 1691 uses traditional.

• ZSBY 2006 contains additions (e.g. case studies) and amendments to ZSBY 1691.

• ZSBY 2006 is divided into four volumes, ZSBY 1691 into 12.

• ZSBY 2006 has three more chapters than ZSBY 1691 although these three chapters are subchapters in ZSBY 1691. That is, topics covered in the chapter titles of the two ZSBY versions are the same.

The translations may not be the most accurate, but hopefully it gives a general idea of ZSBY’s contents.

(continued in next post)

Hi ren,

Ah, so Tientai used the Chinese text project version.

Thanks.

Hi smsek,

Thank you for your detailed response.

Actually Tientai posted it in this very forum folder (Liu Yao).

I believe Tientai is referring to 增刪卜易 Zēngshān Bǔyì (ZSBY). But as there are various versions of ZSBY out there (I have my own preference), I was wondering which version he had adopted for his Liu Yao Case Studies sub-folder.

Regards.

Hi all,

The link to the Source of Wild Crane Studies (https://www.huliwenku.com/p/na4p3zdo.html) referred by Tientai back in 2018 is broken.

Does anyone have a replacement link to the same source text?

Thanks.