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Can vaccination be valid .. ?
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2020, 03:36:38 PM »
This tetragram perfectly reflects the situation.
My question is when did you apply the yarrow stalks in local time ?. There are several stalks methods, was it 36?
To the Fathoming  8:
Strengthen its weakness, reluctant its weakness. He works hard to make himself strong .The best way to do this to immerse himself in the model of the sages…if it chief ministers are selected and employed wisely.
Translation is made by Michael Nylan

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2020, 04:04:12 PM »
Hi Tientai,would you please give a description of this  64 stalks method

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Re: Can vaccination be valid .. ?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2020, 04:52:58 PM »
Hi Tientai,would you please give a description of this  64 stalks method

I have referred about this method before ..
http://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=942.msg6780#msg6780
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2020, 02:49:13 AM »
Heard Britain is lockdown again because of Covid-19 has mutated. Vaccine doesn't seems to be effective.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2020, 06:45:00 AM »
Hey All,

I think I would like to respond to Newman's post. But I would like both post to be split off into some misc. topic.

Heard Britain is lockdown again because of Covid-19 has mutated. Vaccine doesn't seems to be effective.

The current Britain lockdown due to the spread of a mutated strain of Covid virus is total independent of the recent release of Covid-19 Vaccines.
Viral strains when out in the open and replicating - will mutate. This is why we have yearly new Influenza virus vaccines.

I have heard reports of mutated Covid strains for a while. But in this particular case - this strain seems to be +50 percent more contiguous - it has an ability to spread and infect people more quickly than the more common strain(s). 

The new vaccines have just started to be rolled out and the first vaccine requires a second application some 25 days after the first inoculation. We will not start to see any effects of regional / national vaccination projects for many months.

Stick to the basics - Practice social distancing, Wear a face mask, Wash your hand and keep you hands out your face. Practice more common sense!

This is a good half hour interview:
https://www.thirteen.org/metrofocus/2020/12/metrofocus-december-9-2020-dzpice/

Ren
« Last Edit: December 24, 2020, 06:52:57 AM by ren »

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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2020, 12:32:17 PM »

Published on Dec 23, 2020
More swathes of the South, East and southeast of England are to go into Tier 4 coronavirus restrictions. Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the move was needed to stem the spread of coronavirus and the new variant of the infection. London and many parts of the South East are already in Tier 4, which means they cannot leave the area or mix indoors with other households. And Mr Hancock said two cases of a new, 'more transmissible' COVID-19 variant linked to South Africa have also been identified in the UK.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2020, 12:33:03 PM »
Om Mani Padme Hum.

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Re: Can vaccination be valid .. ?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2020, 06:43:15 PM »
A cordial greeting to the colleagues of the Forum. Regarding the issue of Vaccination against Covid, I will give you my personal opinion.

On the one hand, with respect to the last mutation that was registered in England, according to reports from the Imperial College of London, the SARS-CoV-2 strain triggered 22 mutations at the same time (this is something unusual in a Viruses, which usually do one or two mutations in a temporary and staggered way). It is worth noting that to date, Covid-19 had generated about 70 mutations since a year ago, but in this moment executed in multiple ways and that makes scientists suspect that in this instance it can avoid the effect of the doses of the current vaccines. It is possible that the cases of Denmark and South Africa point in the same direction. The largest mutations have been registered in Protein S or Spike, which is the access key of the Virus within Human Cells.

On the other hand, it is interesting to mention that vaccines in advanced development have different reference points: perhaps the best known are those that originate from Messenger Ribonucleic Acid, but there are also those that are built with DNA using as a bridge a genetic structure called Plasmid, and Recombinant Vaccines in attenuated version of chimpanzee Adenovirus have also become fashionable. In the People's Republic of China, a Vaccine that uses a Vector has been elaborated and in this case it is a non-replicating version of an Adenovirus, those that are developed with Dentritic Cells modified with Lentiviral Vectors and also mentioned with Inactivated Viruses in Reactors.

The main drawback of Vaccines are the Adverse Effects that may appear in the Short, Medium or Long Term, since they are themselves Xenobiotics, that is, chemical or synthetic structures that the body tends to reject. They are not produced naturally by our body. For example, the Pfizer Vaccine in some people causes allergies (sometimes serious), the Aztra Zeneca vaccine, has produced neurological pictures in certain patients, and so on.

The Immune System has 18 different Cell Types. The protection of the human being against Covid depends to a large extent on the innate response of Killer Cells (NK). But there is also the Adaptive Response which has two support lines:

The T Lymphocytes (Cellular Response) produced by the Thymus Gland, the most important being the TH1 Response (here the Gamma Interferon and Interleukin 2 come into play), as well as the presence of Memory T Cells (which are proteins Of surface); but at the same time, the B Lymphocytes that produce Antibodies (Humoral Response) at the expense of the Bone Marrow must participate.

Here comes the question: is there a Universal Vaccine that serves to combat whichever Pandemic such as Covid, regardless of its mutations and without triggering Adverse Effects? The Answer is IF IT EXISTS. And that vaccine can be produced by our own body. What happens and happens is that it can be elaborated as long as it is executed with a Long Term job. By itself it does not occur.

The ideal model is to work with the Taoist Internal Alchemy, for example, with the static sequences of Qi Gong (but there are several models). These schemes are much more than practicing a simple sport since they have a very deep spiritual connotation. For example, the execution of the Microcosmic Orbit (Shao Shou Tian) in which one works with the Three Gates (San Guan) constitutes one of these archetypes.

There are ancient texts that mention the work with the Three Treasures (San Bao). In these instances we could refer to the Bone Marrow Washing Technique (Xi Sui Jing) that has been attributed to the monk Daruma or Bodhidharma (visible in Shaolin Monasteries since the 6th century after Christ), being a form of Advanced Alchemy and of the Zhan Buddhism. In essence, to reach the Emptiness or Emptiness (Wu Chi) and reach the Supreme Polarity (Tai Chi), one works with Recirculation Techniques of Internal Energy (Yun Kung or Hshin Kung) and Distillation or Vaporization.

In that order of ideas, when working in Buddhist terms with the Anahata and Vishudda Chakra, a rhombus is formed between the points: Construction of the Place (Tsienn Li), Monument of the Soul (Ling Tae), Immense Palace (Tchiu Koan) and Outgoing Gate (Tian Tu), based on an Energy Vortex called Zhong Dan Tian and the Thymus Gland (which, as I have already mentioned, triggers the Cellular Response of T Lymphocytes that protects us in the long term against any Pandemic, call it Covid or those that will appear in the future).

Also the Chackras: Muladhara, Svadishthana and Manipura, form an equilateral triangle in the bones of the hips by chaining a loop with the Meeting Points of the Yin (Hui Yin), Door of Light (Ming Men) and Palace of Providence (Shen Que), in whose center is located Xia Dan Tian and the production of Antibodies (Humoral Response). In some texts it appears as Qi Hai Dan Tian or Dong Qi or Energy Center of Heaven, and it is exactly the same. Martial Arts Masters mention it often. This is the greatest Axis of Protection against Covid and against any other Virus, regardless of its Potential or its Aggression.

Now, it is not the same, that person who has been practicing Qi Gong conscientiously for a year, to another who has already completed 5 years of experience with Internal Alchemy. In my personal case, I have accumulated 17 years of experience with these Power Networks, and therefore, the degree of protection is much higher. This is not about understanding the Theory of the Philosophy of the Tao, it is about taking it into REAL PRACTICE and SUSTAINING IT IN TIME.

Chemical Vaccines protect up to a certain point (in addition, they carry many risks, the Adverse Effects are sometimes Irreversible), But they will never replace the Natural Techniques of Nei Dan that provide a VACCINE UNIVERSAL and INVINCIBLE against any Pandemic. The Great Masters in Internal Alchemy they knew it for thousands of years.

Merry christmas everyone… :) ;) ;D


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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2020, 07:44:41 AM »
This new strain of covid is 70% more contagious and is spreading out of control in England. Right now whole Europe are banning all form of travel from England. Trump said he won't ban travel from England. Maybe he still think it just a common flu and will go away when the weather get warm again. A large numbers of British are escaping to usa. 2021 will still be a drama year.
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« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2020, 04:08:39 PM »
@DiegoFS ,
To me, your thoughts are to first adjust your mindset or mental state of mind.  Then use qi or air to slowly release and use the air traveling inside your body.  With air and slowly movements, you're simply self messaging your body. 

However, can this process work on everyone?  Any other thoughts.

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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2020, 05:51:51 PM »
Yes, Tyc, it is totally correct: between Mind and Breathing there must be a correct synchronization. But in addition, it is necessary to learn to handle the Hot Qi, the Temperate Qi and the Cold Qi, even, for this the distribution of the Energy must be carried out by compartments or locks.

I remember that years ago, I used the techniques of Hatha Yoga, which in my opinion (I respect the contrary opinions) is risky, since you work with a single Temperature and that over time brings you problems of great emotional instability that ends up damaging this job. Upon knowing and deepening the Tao I realized the error and I corrected it little by little. Qi is a Very Brave Energy, it is like when you get on and try to ride a wild horse that does not allow itself to be bridled, in any small carelessness it throws you away and the "blow" is painful. The "coup" is an allegory. I would only recommend Yoga to a person who is a beginner and only does it for a season, while learning to master the Qi a little, but it is not useful for you to become a Master in these areas. In the long run, it brings more problems than solutions. I hope that if there is a follower of Buddhism and read this, they will not get mad at me.

Now, anyone can use these Tao techniques, but it requires a lot of discipline and perseverance, especially in the beginning, when you don't have practice, it costs more to adapt. Then it becomes a habit, like when you go for a walk. The Qi of a woman and the Qi of a man is different and the techniques by gender do change a bit, but age and the rest matter little. But the truth is that the Philosophical Tao is the Greatest Treasure you can find, it is a way of life. If you want to incorporate Balanced Nutritional Energy Techniques and other things, then much better. I consume Foods loaded with Qi and I also do Acupuncture with the Fingers, to Balance my Energy, these are situations that life itself teaches you.

For those people who wander with their mind, it is good to do a practice of counting from 1 to 100 (with their mind and without saying a word), without thinking about anything else. It seems easy, but for a beginner it is not. And it is a good way to train your mind and keep it still while you do these Qi Gong practices.

In my practices I usually use the last hour of the day, that is, between 11 at night and 1 in the morning (that is, it is equivalent to the first hour of the Chinese Calendar), or if not, between 11 in the morning and one in the afternoon (in your country), and it is because in those hours the Qi circulates more fluidly in your body. Today I have so much practice that sometimes I execute these techniques walking down an avenue, in a bus full of people, in a shopping center or anywhere and the truth is that nobody around you notices.

For example, I often curl my energy around my arms and bring it to the tips of my fingers (anyone will think it is to perform self-defense maneuvers like Bruce Lee did), but actually I do it, because Sometimes, it can be used to direct your Qi in a Tui Na Massage and you can cure a person of some ailment, you can also direct your Qi towards the yarrow sticks or the coins when you try to perform a correct I Ching Reading, and so on.

Regarding Martial Arts, from experience I have realized that with the passing of the years of the practice of the Tao, bad people (criminals and thieves) move away from you because the same Qi that you accumulate protects you from negative influences. Sometimes I have had to walk through very dangerous places (where organized crime groups abound) and those people do not even come close to you. It looks like a science fiction story but it is real. But in itself with the accumulated Qi and in a real combat you can fracture or kill another person, that is why it is very good, quiet the mind, because you must avoid problems of states of anger and pride and lose control of your personality (You could end up in jail, if you commit a homicide). But I go back and repeat, until now and in these last 17 years I have not had conflicts with anyone, fortunately the same accumulated Qi has protected me. Also, the idea of the Tao is that you fight to improve your Personality and not to fight against others.

Also for these times of Pandemics, the Tao charges an added value. But the most beautiful thing about the Tao is that it gives a spiritual meaning to your life and you don't need to go to Temples and Churches. Personally, I have nothing against Religions, but the truth is they are unnecessary if you manage to focus internally with yourself. The true Religion is in Balancing the Energy in your Heart and trying to help other people (when you can).


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Re: Can vaccination be valid .. ?
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2020, 06:01:51 PM »
I think I made a mistake in my writing (correction): “…or if not, between 11 in the morning and one in the afternoon (in your country),…”

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Re: Can vaccination be valid .. ?
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2020, 06:11:35 PM »
Dear @DiegoFS ..

I agree with you the most  !!!
By your last article you touched a very sensitive part .. with long discussion ..!!
All you said are valuable in our times .. on the ramparts of worldwide making vaccination ..!!
Just add a question :
How can a single Vaccine medication is valid for all people ? (Youth - middle age - old age)
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