Donna Karan: a married woman with no Officer Star 👩‍❤️‍👨 👩‍❤️‍👨

[JLim (Darma W)]

https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&src=1&n=Karan%2C+Donna&h=04%3A00&d=2&m=10&y=1948&l=-73.51&g=-5&ds=0&s=1&rr=C

Year  Month   Day    Hour
 Wu    Xin     Geng    Wu
 Zi      You     Shen    Yin  -- born 2 October 1948

LP Wu Wu: Jan 1976-Jan 1986

Donna Karan is the famous fashion designer known by her world-famous brand DKNY.  She does not have the traditional Officer Star as spouse star.  But she grew her business to world level in close collaboration with her husband, whom she married in 1983.  They never separated till her husband's death in 2001.

What is her spouse star?  Yin Wood as Wealth is the Spouse Star.  The only connection between Spouse Palace (Day Branch) and this Spouse Star is clash, but since Wealth Star is located in the Hour Pillar, this can also be taken as Spouse Star, especially since there is no Fire Officer in the chart.  Hour Pillar = Sex Pillar, and Hour Pillar is also the Host location.

Marriage timing is usually late, because the Spouse Star is in the Hour Pillar.  Indeed, in 1983 Donna was 35 years old.  How did the Spouse Star trigger the marriage?  Sub-LP was Wu, so Hour Pillar (Wu Yin) is activated, simply because Wu sub-LP = Hour Wu. 

1983 is Gui Hai, and Gui Hai combines with Wu Yin (both Stem and Branch), so the Spouse Star Yin is activated.  Note that combination with Yin alone is good enough to activate the Spouse Star.

Yin as Spouse Star fits the (original) profession of her husband: sculptor.  It's because Yin is Wood, and a sculptor is involved with wood.  Yin as Wealth Star also performs work (controlled by strong Metal gang, especially by Shen).  Her husband was instrumental in her accompany's success and accumulation of wealth.

[Gmuli]

He was older then her(it says he was 62 when he died, so few years older).
Doesn't then point more to the Zi in the Year then to the Yin in the hour?

[Hellow]

This chart is yang ren structure. But without officer or 7k it consider broken. Mao year will be bad for her.

[JLim (Darma W)]

He was older then her(it says he was 62 when he died, so few years older).

Yes, that's right, her husband was 9 years older than her. 

Doesn't then point more to the Zi in the Year then to the Yin in the hour?

Yes, the Year Pillar indicates someone older.  Note that the whole Hour Pillar of Wu Yin is connected to the Year Pillar Wu Zi, therefore husband was older.

This chart is yang ren structure. But without officer or 7k it consider broken. Mao year will be bad for her.

Yes, Yang Ren structure based on traditional Bazi.  But in Mangpai's view, Officer or Seven Killings is not a must in such a structure.  About Mao years, I don't have any info about any major good or bad event in such a year.  Her LP from 2006 to 2016 is Yi Mao, and her business still ran smoothly.

[Hellow]

Thank you JLim.

[Gmuli]

Yes, the Year Pillar indicates someone older.  Note that the whole Hour Pillar of Wu Yin is connected to the Year Pillar Wu Zi, therefore husband was older.

Ohh, I see, it makes sense, yea. Thanks, its interesting case.

[Riyadi]

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[Phoenix]

Donna Karan had 2 marriages.

Mark Karan (m. 1976; div. 1978)​
Stephan Weiss ​(m. 1983; died 2001)

Wu Yin & Wu Zi may represent them.
I've not found Mark Karan's birthdate yet. 
The info would be helpful to determine which one is represented by Yin and which one is represented by Zi.

 

[JLim (Darma W)]

The info would be helpful to determine which one is represented by Yin and which one is represented by Zi.

This is the only male Karan that I can find in the Internet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karan.  So, Mark Karan was born in Jia Wu year.

[Jiyou]

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[JLim (Darma W)]

Yes, Jiyou, that's one possible way to trigger the chart for a marriage to occur.  Certainly, we must look at the whole chart, LP (Luck Pillar) and AP (Annual Pillar), preferably in that order. 

[Jiyou]

Thank you JLim on the advice!