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Offline Twilight

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2023, 01:44:47 PM »
@Gmuli @tyc
i have read the conversation but I am someone who just have understood Bazi based on own interests and read all in chunks from here and there, whatever i found available any my major concern is to understand the personality, traits and why and what from Bazi. So take me as some basic learner here. I understood how you are trying to get the solution but so naive to get through the core. However, i have mentioned something about "Zi", the chart holder has got a Zi Dm back in 2019-20 who ended up the same way, approached the girl with intention to know her to get married, attraction no doubt was there but the conversation went downhill in Feb 2020 all as sudden, then that guy too took the (financial) favour from this girl mentioning his hard times etc. and never looked back, never returned anything not even when asked. He has (Rat Horse Dragon as i remember). Another Rat around just tried to flirt around, he wanted nothing but has physical attraction towards the girl. So in my understanding, I guess Rats dont work well. but let me attach other important parts of her chart here, may be that would help.
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Gmuli

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Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2023, 02:11:25 PM »
@Gmuli @tyc
i have read the conversation but I am someone who just have understood Bazi based on own interests and read all in chunks from here and there, whatever i found available any my major concern is to understand the personality, traits and why and what from Bazi. So take me as some basic learner here. I understood how you are trying to get the solution but so naive to get through the core. However, i have mentioned something about "Zi", the chart holder has got a Zi Dm back in 2019-20 who ended up the same way, approached the girl with intention to know her to get married, attraction no doubt was there but the conversation went downhill in Feb 2020 all as sudden, then that guy too took the (financial) favour from this girl mentioning his hard times etc. and never looked back, never returned anything not even when asked. He has (Rat Horse Dragon as i remember). Another Rat around just tried to flirt around, he wanted nothing but has physical attraction towards the girl. So in my understanding, I guess Rats dont work well. but let me attach other important parts of her chart here, may be that would help.

I think Zi is losing wealth, Xu is the one that can change the mechanic.
But why it happens, what is there to learn or accomplish, I can't say without knowing the person. There are subtle movements we have to notice to see how it work.

Offline Twilight

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2023, 05:26:02 PM »
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So if this was the root cause, I'm not sure how it played out before school in 2004.

I see Aug / Sep 2005 are metal months. Respiratory-related health issues?
Thats okay I just mentioned a timeline and this was just to mention how and when her life changed to see if theres anything crucial or any clashes or combinations in working.
I'll put up her the health related timeline in last para.

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If this has always been the case for her, then it could be due to the healthy Officer Shen metal in the branches, which is affinity with males.
Otherwise, I can't see why there is a suddenly improved relationship with males in 2006.
Well your justification about Healthy officer makes logic. otherwise there is no sudden improvement in relationships, its like that female based company doesn't add any value to her, she doesn't feel connected in female gatherings. Whereas males are supportive. the only close friend she has is male too. I ll ask if she knows his best friend's DOB if that could add up anything.

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Oh, so close!
If we use Symbolic Stars, for Chou day branch, Hai must appear.
Before 7th Dec, it was a Hai month.
yeah i was amazed to see how close you calculated that, but are you saying Hai triggered travel? because obviously the processing went on in Hai month, and Hai is the sky horse too.

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Strictly speaking, based on classical Bazi, Zi can form a harm with her Wei, Zi can also combine with her Chou.
Yeah exactly, i am of the same view that Zi is somehow neutral, or controversial may be? harming more and supporting less.

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Yes it supports the DM more, but it also becomes exposed to risk like clashes and combines. When it suffers a clash/combination, the support flips over to a negative.
That's why some say it is better to have elements missing than to have them appear and be subjected to bad interactions.
hmm, i only had a point in mind that luck pillar acts more strongly so in my understanding it should be more "supportive" time. but i get your point as well.

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If she doesn't need the romantic part and only wants someone straight as an arrow, he's the man.
umm how could it be so dry? i mean he has a Fire in combination his wealth element, isnt it? so wont that help? and i took this combination important because it is the guy who approached the girl, the guy wants to get married in first place. He wanted her as his wife first. so somewhere he wants a partner a female counterpart.

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I thought when you asked if she will find relief in this tough life, you meant when there will be a period in her life where there isn't some elemental clash/harm/punishment/combination/etc., which there isn't for the LPs until 2059.
It's different if you are asking if she will find success in her entrepreneurship.
nah nah, even she has a mind that life is challenging game and hard times are a crucial part of it, they have to be there to keep it more fun. It is just that she want to breath as her own self now, wants to do what she likes, follow her passion. travel around, excel as entrepreneur, make progress in her life. understand her life path and follow it. This is what she wants now, coz the life till now was more suffocating for her, rewarding her very little for his massive inputs. she felt bounded and like you said "shackles she is bestowed with" she wants to get rid of them now. she has no issues with working hard, she just want to get rid of toxicity around which isnt letting her grow her way.

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Actually, I thought about this…be it classical Bazi or the school I use…even knowing what are the favourable elements every year, how is she going use that information?
i dont know but i read it somewhere in a way that these elements can be induced like, say water through traveling around, communicating or even starting with journaling. similarly by intaking foods more related to specific elements. I may be totally incorrect but i just asked a question to know if that could work.

@aeonrel thank you so much you have helped me alot and cleared alot of my thoughts. you are amazing. :) I am still working on this and might need more of your help. but all i got till now really means alot.
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Offline Twilight

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2023, 05:29:56 PM »


@Gmuli
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I think Zi is losing wealth, Xu is the one that can change the mechanic.
But why it happens, what is there to learn or accomplish, I can't say without knowing the person. There are subtle movements we have to notice to see how it work.
knowing the chart holder? she is in direct contact with me these days, you may ask whatever you want to know please.

Offline tyc

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2023, 05:40:39 PM »
Like u I'm still learning.  I used your chart to figure issues that i couldn't determine on my own.  I used 5 elements & basic 10 gods concepts: simple but simplicity lacks details. 

I honestly wasn't trying to come up with A solution but rather trying to point out there many possible solutions using 5 elements concept.  IMO understanding EB can help provide more details, but this area may lead to many inaccuracies (See gmuli responds).

I don't know how to properly read relationships from a chart.  However, I would ask myself this question: is my chart ready to have a relationship (there are metals in HHS).  Read Gmuli comments, and see if u can figure out that question.


Gmuli

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Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2023, 08:19:13 AM »


@Gmuli
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I think Zi is losing wealth, Xu is the one that can change the mechanic.
But why it happens, what is there to learn or accomplish, I can't say without knowing the person. There are subtle movements we have to notice to see how it work.
knowing the chart holder? she is in direct contact with me these days, you may ask whatever you want to know please.

In my humble view, key is what wei represents. And it seems to represents values left by her father, in some cases. As both she and her brother(Jia) anchor in it and come out of it. And that values may be related to her fathers relation to her mother(Chen).
On top of boyfriend we have Jia(her brother). He anchors in Wei also comes from there.
And takes away Wealth again, that is Wei/Chou shared, so hers but also not hers.
Key question becomes what did she took from her father in relation to Wealth.How did he see Wealth/Money/Income.

2019 New LP starts. All wood falls in Wei and closes it. So that is not accessible and leads to all sorts of problems, as on top of that, her physical body(Mao) is in Harm with Chen.
Questions:
1.What does she and her brother share about wealth, possibly left by her father?
Understanding, values or maybe a house or something else?Possibly left be her father as values, although can be something material too(like a house or a company or money etc.)
2.What happened after her father passed away with rest of familys relations in detail?
3.Did one of her parents had idea/belief money should be given to support people in need?Possibly her father.
4.Was her father really supportive(financially and not only) of her mother and can we say it wasn't fully appreciated?
5.More about her mother may be needed. Can we say there is much resource in her chart?How do people relate to her.


other then that I think details on this could help if not a problem:

 "mentioning that this female has no affinity with mother, father recently passed away and the other relatives shown their real faces after the death of father. So Zero Affinity with anyone in the family."
This seems to be all falling in Chen again. Then Mao in harm with Chen. But do all family support or at least try to adjust to her mother?Or chen is something else.

"Her elder brother is Gui Wei day master and somehow he kept an influence on her for alot of things, but as she now realized that he is the one eating up all her resources she is not trusting him anymore. things started unfolding after april 2023 after her fathers death."
More info on that may be needed. Jia do take Ji, but Ji isn't fully hers, so what happens there?Brother should be Jia.

"and she is stuck with all the boundaries set by her mother '
This should be all that comes from all falling in Chen. But how does that show in real life?Is her mother so controling that she controls 3/4 of the chart by it falling in Chen?Or something else is going on.

So I think details on that conflicts can be helpful, just to be sure. And how they lead to losing money. :)
I checked in detail previous posts. I think I get what happens in my style of reading, but seems wiser to ask first.Relation of father(Wei) and his values and relation to Wealth, to Mother and how she relates to family seems important(Chen).

Why does her father pass away at that time...
In this kind of combination(Hai<>Mao<>Wei or parts of it) hai and Wei move to join the central component. Its one way to see movement in the chart. When Mao lp comes, Wei is inclined to join it in LP.
When Mao year came, there are 2 Maos, never in life will be that many, so they just take Wei(her father) away.

Distance from family - again, all falls in Chen, so its normal. With Wei lost the only hot factor in the cold environment is lost, together with Mao having harm with Chen and her anchoring there now.

Does her mother have a lot of Resource in her chart(expecting yes)?Not important, though, just curious.

Offline Twilight

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2023, 10:45:08 AM »
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In my humble view, key is what wei represents. And it seems to represents values left by her father, in some cases. As both she and her brother(Jia) anchor in it and come out of it. And that values may be related to her fathers relation to her mother(Chen).
I agree, out of these 4 siblings, these 2 elders, the brother and the chart holder herself share values (moral/ethical) from father.

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Key question becomes what did she took from her father in relation to Wealth.How did he see Wealth/Money/Income.
Well this is what makes the girl and her brother poles apart. This girl started earning and became financially independent in 2010 and never asked for a penny ever from anyone, rather helped others with her money. On the other hand, her brother stayed forever dependant on father, even after getting married too. Living in fathers house enjoying all benefits on behalf of father. Taken alot financially from father in the name of education and startups but wasted all, never even tried to return back. Even after father's death, he has taken over some basic stuff already. This annoyed the girl but she never created any dispute ever, the father even was annoyed but couldn't do much as the brother is extremely stubborn, thinks he knows alot. Her wife even became a financial burden over family.


Father passed away on 13 April 2023, 7am (can be last minutes of 6:00 not sure), The chart holder girl was stressed due to her fathers health and was focusing more on his responsibilities lever her own self aside.
@aeonrel ( the health conditions with timeline i missed)

-  In March 2023, she suffered form sudden throbbing chest pain along with breathing issues, prescribed to be taken to cardiac specialists in emergency. Similar pain happened back in 2008 and mentioned as "anxiety" on reports. But this time it was more swear and after her fathers death it regularly happened for 2 months after 3rd or 4th day  or once in weak more specifically in late nights and lasted for 6 -7 hours too.
-  Migraine and sleep issues diagnosed in 2005-06 onwards and same pattern repeated after her fathers death, migraine especially hit in May to Sep 2023
-  She has hormonal and blood related issues, first diagnosed in 2011, this is a continuous issue she's been dealing with but in her report of 8th oct, out of nowhere her urea level in blood went extremely high.
-  Suffered from lower back pain in Aug-Sep 23
-  Suffered from swear left shoulder and arm pain Sep 23
-  Lost weight after her father demise, which she is never able to do even through diets.
-  Everything in doubt was examined and the reports were clear, however I believe she is suffering from Blood infection/ or blood related issues as per her chart. But one thing amazing i noticed that when her urea was diagnosed to go beyond normal levels, she was though talking in a way meaningless to others, but everything she was asked about to verify her memory was 101% accurate. She has an amazing memory, she had perfect visual details of incidents happened even in her childhood. which triggered me to get help for her, because in that condition, her brother making everyone believe that she lost all her mind, took her psychiatrists who mentioned her as extreme depressing case (Acute Behavioural Disorders) which could lead to sudden death. Doctors heard all the story from her brother. But i was noticing her she was all perfect in her memories and understandings and i couldn't get Why her brother was even doing it to her. This all happened for the while month of October starting from 7th Oct. And like i said she was all perfect in her understanding during this time period, I believe it too but no one else is believing her. For everyone she has lost her mind and that she needs care. So now even her passion to leave for some other country is stuck due to her health conditions as well. This is the reason i said that Oct showed her real faces of even close family members. Her aunt somehow is polite and listens to her but even she believes somewhere in her head that the girl has psychological issue which when came into the notice of the girl, she made herself more reserved to herself only.


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1.What does she and her brother share about wealth, possibly left by her father?
Mentioned above too, Her brother even after the father demise is dependant of fathers money, She never has been financially dependant on her father. Never took a penny after 2010, earned on her own. But even at times when she asked for some timely favours, her father couldn't manage to do it for her.

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Understanding, values or maybe a house or something else?Possibly left be her father as values, although can be something material too(like a house or a company or money etc.)
Her father was a knowledgeable man. These both kids inherited this value, but as far as I observed, the Girl is more intelligent and talks more logic while her brother is stubborn and more of a "talk more follow less". She even once said that her brother is full of ego and cant digest someone negating and proving his understandings wrong. So i guess the Girl is doing more justice with what she inherited from her father.
Money matters i mentioned above.
House / vehicle/ other property left by father, is shared  and should be shared. but mother through her controlling and keeping strict hold over wealth, and brother through his "magical" speaking and convincing other skills, are just ruining the property. Other 2 sisters are married and more influenced by mother and brother.


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2.What happened after her father passed away with rest of familys relations in detail?
Father was very close to his brother, but after him, due to stubborn nature of her mother and brother, the relationship got a knot. Father's closest elatives are put to some distance. The girl was put to a corner, proved to be mentally unstable, and still been tried to be controlled over. She got ripped off financially by the family itself, as she was taking care of all after her father and even when her father was dealing with ill before death. The younger sisters are more influenced by brother and mother however the youngest one still tries to help. the girl been through all this is not going to trust any of them though, she is hurt.

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3.Did one of her parents had idea/belief money should be given to support people in need?Possibly her father.
yes, the father. He never hold strong to money, though he saved and invested for his kids and bad times but he was more good at supporting others in need.

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4.Was her father really supportive(financially and not only) of her mother and can we say it wasn't fully appreciated?
My father was really supportive to mother but Mother has negative traits of never appreciating, always complaining, keeping strict hold on to money, even she holds onto useless things too. Always wanted and still wants all control over everything.

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5.More about her mother may be needed. Can we say there is much resource in her chart?How do people relate to her.
Mother never trusted this girl, leave appriciation she never even acknowledged the girl's favour. When she notice girl being appreciated by other, she tries to compete with the girl and i cant understand what kind of mother does so.


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"mentioning that this female has no affinity with mother, father recently passed away and the other relatives shown their real faces after the death of father. So Zero Affinity with anyone in the family."
I tried explaining it above, you may ask more if u think it would help.

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More info on that may be needed. Jia do take Ji, but Ji isn't fully hers, so what happens there?Brother should be Jia.
He is 3 feb 1987, 9:50 ( I personally believe he is 9th hour, could be 10 not sure, I am just a basic learner)

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This should be all that comes from all falling in Chen. But how does that show in real life?Is her mother so controlling that she controls 3/4 of the chart by it falling in Chen?Or something else is going on.
Yes she is extremely controlling, she wants everyone to follow as she says, even the father of the girl, to avoid the stressful conditions use to go silent over matters. She is more "narcissistic personality"

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Does her mother have a lot of Resource in her chart(expecting yes)?Not important, though, just curious.

I don't know, even her DOB is doubt full. But what is a resource to mother? She is eldest in her own siblings now and somehow the younger ones do take care of her, and after her husband gone, try to support her. She is even holding on to whats left by her husband.
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Gmuli

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Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2023, 03:18:58 PM »


I was reading it back... I think my stuff is too messy, currently. Difficult to follow, aeonrel  is much cleaner, so will leave it, as its still accurate with aeonrel style there, so better for the topic overall. : )
The other stuff does fit, though, but probably better to use cleaner styles here in the open. : )

Offline Twilight

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2023, 04:01:41 PM »
@Gmuli
Owh :( I was hoping that I might get some answers to why's and how's of this chart which I am not able to understand.

Offline tyc

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2023, 05:26:48 PM »
U should continue to ask as much as possible. 

However, like a doctor  / lawyer, there will be a moment it is best to hire an expert to continue your knowledge journey.

Offline aeonrel

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2023, 07:38:17 PM »
@Twilight ,

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Another Rat around just tried to flirt around, he wanted nothing but has physical attraction towards the girl.
Dropping some info nuggets cos you are trying to learn Bazi:

There are different ways to read Peach Blossoms.

- Fixed defined Peach Blossoms are Rat, Horse, Rabbit and Rooster. Why? Because in terms of their position in the hours of a day, they each represent a transition state. Rat is around midnight, the complete disappearance of Yang and into a fully Yin environment. Rabbit is sunrise, the birth of Yang from a fully Yin environment. Horse is noon, the complete disappearance of Yin and into a fully Yang environment. You is sunset, the birth of Yin from a fully Yang environment.

Because these few zodiac cuts across Yin and Yang, they are seen as having the ability to connect with opposite gender well, hence Peach Blossoms.
BUT, Peach Blossoms are just attractiveness…does not ensure true love, devotion and being responsible to the opposite gender.

- Other ways of defining Peach Blossom is via the Ten Gods. i.e. for females, Direct Officer is affinity with males, for males is Direct Wealth is affinity with females.

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yeah i was amazed to see how close you calculated that, but are you saying Hai triggered travel? because obviously the processing went on in Hai month, and Hai is the sky horse too.
I think this website summarizes concisely how to determine the Travelling/Sky Horse for your learning:
https://kenlai.wordpress.com/2022/02/20/meanings-of-travelling-horse-%E9%A9%BF%E9%A9%AC%E7%A5%9E%E7%85%9E%E8%A7%A3/

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Yeah exactly, i am of the same view that Zi is somehow neutral, or controversial may be? harming more and supporting less.
Combinations takes precedence over growing, clash, harm, punishment, destruction.
So if Zi appears in Luck or Annual Pillars, the Zi-Chou combine will always go first.
So in a way, Zi is problematic when it appears in time.
But I am not sure if this kind of elemental interaction is allowed across Bazi charts, that's why for compatibility study, I usually decipher each individual's personality via Bazi first, then apply real-world logic to determine compatibility.

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umm how could it be so dry? i mean he has a Fire in combination his wealth element, isnt it? so wont that help? and i took this combination important because it is the guy who approached the girl, the guy wants to get married in first place. He wanted her as his wife first. so somewhere he wants a partner a female counterpart.
Maybe I over exaggerated, so it seems more dry than it should be.
No wealth elements means average affinity.
But to a person who wants something more romantic, this may not be enough.

Combination doesn't always mean there will be a transformation. The condition to transform is very stringent, but I am unfamiliar because the 5 element school I use does not look at transformation (you do not apply transformation if you are only looking at snapshot of time because transformation is a like a chemical reaction - it takes time and you only get the end result at the end of the whole thing. In the middle, you only get the combination, but not the transformation, even if you meet the requirements).

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nah nah, even she has a mind that life is challenging game and hard times are a crucial part of it, they have to be there to keep it more fun. It is just that she want to breath as her own self now, wants to do what she likes, follow her passion. travel around, excel as entrepreneur, make progress in her life. understand her life path and follow it. This is what she wants now, coz the life till now was more suffocating for her, rewarding her very little for his massive inputs. she felt bounded and like you said "shackles she is bestowed with" she wants to get rid of them now. she has no issues with working hard, she just want to get rid of toxicity around which isnt letting her grow her way.
Then yes, it's all about fire for her.
Since it comes only sporadically in her Annual Pillars, she gotta force it out of herself.

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i dont know but i read it somewhere in a way that these elements can be induced like, say water through traveling around, communicating or even starting with journaling. similarly by intaking foods more related to specific elements. I may be totally incorrect but i just asked a question to know if that could work.
I think you got the idea, but avoid the esoteric ones like "wearing red for fire".
Even for food, I would keep that for health related issues.

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A lot of other information which I will digest and reply when I have more time.

Offline aeonrel

Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2023, 10:43:49 AM »
@Twilight ,

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-  In March 2023, she suffered form sudden throbbing chest pain along with breathing issues, prescribed to be taken to cardiac specialists in emergency. Similar pain happened back in 2008 and mentioned as "anxiety" on reports. But this time it was more swear and after her fathers death it regularly happened for 2 months after 3rd or 4th day  or once in weak more specifically in late nights and lasted for 6 -7 hours too.
-  Migraine and sleep issues diagnosed in 2005-06 onwards and same pattern repeated after her fathers death, migraine especially hit in May to Sep 2023
-  She has hormonal and blood related issues, first diagnosed in 2011, this is a continuous issue she's been dealing with but in her report of 8th oct, out of nowhere her urea level in blood went extremely high.
-  Suffered from lower back pain in Aug-Sep 23
-  Suffered from swear left shoulder and arm pain Sep 23
-  Lost weight after her father demise, which she is never able to do even through diets.
-  Everything in doubt was examined and the reports were clear, however I believe she is suffering from Blood infection/ or blood related issues as per her chart. But one thing amazing i noticed that when her urea was diagnosed to go beyond normal levels, she was though talking in a way meaningless to others, but everything she was asked about to verify her memory was 101% accurate. She has an amazing memory, she had perfect visual details of incidents happened even in her childhood. which triggered me to get help for her, because in that condition, her brother making everyone believe that she lost all her mind, took her psychiatrists who mentioned her as extreme depressing case (Acute Behavioural Disorders) which could lead to sudden death. Doctors heard all the story from her brother. But i was noticing her she was all perfect in her memories and understandings and i couldn't get Why her brother was even doing it to her. This all happened for the while month of October starting from 7th Oct. And like i said she was all perfect in her understanding during this time period, I believe it too but no one else is believing her. For everyone she has lost her mind and that she needs care. So now even her passion to leave for some other country is stuck due to her health conditions as well. This is the reason i said that Oct showed her real faces of even close family members. Her aunt somehow is polite and listens to her but even she believes somewhere in her head that the girl has psychological issue which when came into the notice of the girl, she made herself more reserved to herself only.
2023 March is a Mao month in a Mao year, and Mao is reflection of DM.
Whichever day that injure the Mao (drained/clash) also injures the DM directly.

2005 is a Yi wood year in the stem.
Yi also shares same Qi as DM Yi.
So a month that injures Yi in the stem will also injure DM directly.
2006 is probably a continuation from 2005.

May to Sept 2023 (or for any year in fact), is the month of Si fire, Wu fire, Wei earth, Shen metal, You metal - all of which are draining or clashing elements for Wood.
And she is a weak DM, so unsurprisingly her ailments tend to appear on these months.
Especially the metal months as clashing is even worse than draining.
You metal in Sept last until 7th Oct.

2011 is another Mao year again, so a month that injures the Mao will also injure DM directly.

I feel the source of her health problems are largely due to the stress, judging from the fact that most happen during a period where DM is directly injured.

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He is 3 feb 1987, 9:50 ( I personally believe he is 9th hour, could be 10 not sure, I am just a basic learner)
City of birth? We can plot then check against what you have said so far to ensure the hour is correct.

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Yes she is extremely controlling, she wants everyone to follow as she says, even the father of the girl, to avoid the stressful conditions use to go silent over matters. She is more "narcissistic personality"
This is quite interesting.
Mother should be Indirect Support or Gui Water to chart holder.
Parents are also associated with the Month and/or Year Pillar.
Both pillars are dominated by yin and yang Earths.
Earth controls and is detrimental to Water.
So we can say the mother bears a controlling personality to her detriment (unhappy family).

MangpaiLover

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Re: Need help to understand the life pattern
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2023, 04:20:10 AM »
Oh Thankyou so much @aeonrel for such detailed explanation, i really appreciate this favour. thank you so much, this explained a lot i didn't know. and by this explanation should i now confirm that i was right in guessing her hour as 3pm? it was 3pm and not 2pm right? let me mention the timeline here


  • - Blessed creative mind but gave up on many interests due to discouragement & responsibilities
    - Done with all the education & degrees, Schooling: Position holder (till 2004)
    - Never appreciated by family, No affinity with them, father: supportive but couldn't support openly, passed away in 2023 Apr
    - College time was bit off, lost interest, especially in maths (2004-2006)
    - 2006 onwards, close circle is of Males, couldn't get along with females
    - 2010 started career & interest developed in Creative learnings, struggling career, hard earned money, never took loans. relationship failures too
    - 2015, Invested in partnership, faced huge loss, major financial and emotional setback
    - 2017 dec, first ever travel to some other country
    - 2020 unplanned event forced to give up on career and focus on responsibility towards mother.
    - 2021, change of residence
    - 2023 oct sudden events regarding health but sudden recovery too.

 
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In the following months, she will mellow down as the elements will not rock her boat so violently any more.
In fact, from Nov to Jan, water is strong, and water serves as her self-reflection element.
So she would probably think things through during this period and by 2024, she will be back to her usual self.
She now is stable though, but its been all her life that she kept giving up on her own self, her goals and interests. and now she wants to be herself, focus on herself. I was unable to look for anyways through her chart thats why I put up a post here to ask from the experienced people. Her main goals now is to get married in order to have some emotional support and happiness, to redo herself. Secondly she wants to explore the world, travel and learn. She wants to be an entrepreneur, wants to do something extraordinary benefiting others.  and she is stuck with all the boundaries set by her mother and with getting married it is really hard for her to escape, especially now when she is being ripped off financially by everyone around.  >:(

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Since it is a combination with wood (Peer element), I am willing to bet it has something to do with colleagues.
Not really, 2016 was her big financial loss and partnership and the partner was the main culprit (i have mentioned a timeline in other post too). 2020 was about her mother's health, some accident happened and she needed a 24/7 nurse for around like 3-5 months. The chart holder, out of her good was the only one to handle. She was a freelancer, in fact was self-employed at that time, working with her hired employees online and excelling good. But have to put all aside when handed over a responsibility in emergency.  :( :(


I wanted to ask about the other chart if that suitor could provide her the support she need.?
Is she going to get any relief out of all this tough life? is there still some better time for her to grow as her real self?
What are her favourable elements or combos to look for?
How about her career and goal? can she still keep moving when she is financially ripped off, and feels bounded by her own family?
Can marriage bring any good compared to the times she still was struggling in?

Thankyou again for the brief details, that really means alot.



I think this year and last year quite 'happening' for her.
like not so good, also 2020 is quite bad. The resource and the wealth
tried to fight with each other whenever it meet.
Not very good relationship with mother also.
2021 was much better for her.
Please confirm



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