Lee murray when he will be free

[nin99]

Reverse-engineering a Time of Birth (TOB) by correlating past major events to his Bazi chart is complex but achievable to a certain degree. We can make educated guesses based on significant life events, but without TOB, the Hour Pillar—and the information it brings regarding wealth, career, children, and health—is missing. Here’s how we might approach it and what events could give us clues:

1. **Marriage and Children**: Marriage timing and children usually connect to the Day Master’s favorable or unfavorable relationship elements (such as the Officer Star or Wealth Star in a male’s chart). Key Luck Pillars or annual cycles featuring Wood (representing relationships, if favorable) or Earth (children) could point to these events.

2. **Financial Gains and Losses**: Wealth elements for him would be represented by Metal if we consider his Day Master type and interactions in his Bazi chart. Financial gains might align with Luck Pillars or annual cycles where Metal is strengthened (such as during Earth or Metal years). Conversely, significant financial losses could happen in Luck Pillars or annual cycles dominated by elements that weaken Metal (like strong Fire years).

3. **Career Changes or Loss**: Promotions or career advancements may show up in Luck Pillars that feature supportive elements for his Day Master or Officer Star (often Fire or Earth for many Day Masters, depending on their type). A job loss or major setbacks, on the other hand, could coincide with clashes or unfavorable interactions with the Officer Star.

4. **Health or Accidents**: Major health challenges often align with years when conflicting or “clashing” elements enter the chart, especially if they involve the Day Master’s opposing or controlling elements. For example, if his Bazi is prone to Wood clashes, accidents or health issues might happen in Wood years or Luck Pillars.

### Steps to Refine the TOB Estimate:

1. **Identify Notable Life Events**: If you have details of his marriage, children, financial gains and losses, major health events, or other significant changes, we could cross-reference these with his Luck Pillars and annual cycles to narrow down plausible Time Pillars.

2. **Test Hypothetical TOBs**: We could test different Time Pillars to see which align best with his known life events. This involves generating hypothetical charts and matching them against the timeline of his significant life changes.

3. **Identify Patterns in Key Elements**: Observing patterns in elements that commonly represent family, wealth, health, and career across his known life events can guide us to the closest approximate Hour Pillar.

If you can provide a list of his major life events along with approximate dates, we can begin matching these to potential Hour Pillars and narrow down possible birth times. Let me know if you’d like to proceed with this approach!

If he s a strong water daymaster than fire will be he s wealth!
How can be metal?!
He s freedom îs wood?!

[smsek]

Thank you for clarifying. If Lee Murray is a strong Water Day Master, here’s how the elements align:

Certainly. Here’s the revised response:

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Thank you for clarifying. If Lee Murray is a strong Water Day Master, here’s how the elements align:

1. **Wealth**: Fire is indeed the Wealth element for a Water Day Master, as Water grows Wood, which then generates Fire, representing the flow from resource to productivity to wealth.

2. **Freedom**: Wood represents freedom for a strong Water Day Master, as it serves as an outlet for the Water’s strength and brings expansion and opportunity, which could signify liberation or release from restrictions.

With these corrections, we can focus on major periods and years where Fire and Wood appear prominently to analyze when he might experience financial gain, expansion, or potential freedom. If you provide specific life events, we can attempt to estimate his Time of Birth by cross-referencing periods of influence from Fire and Wood.

[nin99]

I write up some crucial moments from his life

[nin99]

1.Murray was arrested at a shopping centre in Rabat, Morocco on June 25, 2006. He was convicted in a Moroccan court in June 2010 and initially .hope this will help.he has 1 daughter.
2.start he s carrer on this date... he competed in his first fight on 5 December 1999
3.28 September 2005, Murray was hospitalised after being stabbed in a brawl during the birthday party of British glamour model Lauren Pope and the birthday party of his friend and boxing trainer Terry Colter.

[smsek]

Given these events, let’s analyze possible Time Pillars that could align with the circumstances, focusing on key indicators related to major incidents, career events, and family (noting that he has a daughter). We’ll consider Water as the Day Master element, assuming it’s strong based on your feedback.

### Major Life Events

1. **Arrest on June 25, 2006, and Conviction in June 2010** 
   - **2006 Arrest**: This event could indicate the presence of elements that control or restrict Water, such as strong Earth (Officer Star) or Fire (Wealth Star) elements. The restriction is likely prominent in his annual cycle or Luck Pillar.
   - **2010 Conviction**: The judicial outcome in 2010 may also correspond to an Officer or Wealth element, potentially highlighting a clash or control relationship if these elements were active in his chart.

2. **Career Start on December 5, 1999** 
   - The beginning of a career could correlate with Wood or Fire elements for a strong Water Day Master. Wood represents freedom and action, which could align with entering a competitive and physically active profession.

3. **Injury and Hospitalization on September 28, 2005** 
   - This incident involving physical harm may indicate a clash or direct clash of Fire (representing Wealth and possibly risk) or Earth (restriction or harm to Water). Years with Fire or Earth clashes would typically represent challenges for a Water Day Master, especially if these elements are unfavorable.

### Hypothetical Time of Birth Estimation Process

1. **Possible Time Pillars (Hour Pillars)**: 
   - The Hour Pillar influences aspects related to children, wealth, and later-life fortunes. If he has a strong Water Day Master, we should look for potential interactions involving **Wood (freedom)** and **Fire (wealth)** in the Hour Pillar that could explain the timing of these events.

2. **Potential TOB and Hour Pillar Analysis**: 
   - **子 (Zi – Rat)**: If Murray were born in the Rat Hour (11:00 PM – 1:00 AM), it could reinforce his strong Water nature, making Wood and Fire more impactful as controlling elements in times of stress or financial challenges.
   - **卯 (Mao – Rabbit)**: The Rabbit Hour (5:00 AM – 7:00 AM) would introduce Wood directly, supporting themes of freedom and action, particularly in his career and personal life.
   - **午 (Wu – Horse)**: The Horse Hour (11:00 AM – 1:00 PM) could emphasize Fire in his chart, highlighting wealth and potential conflicts, particularly related to his 2005 injury and 2006 arrest.
   - **酉 (You – Rooster)**: The Rooster Hour (5:00 PM – 7:00 PM) would add Metal, which may increase clashes, though Metal is unlikely to account fully for the observed challenges.

3. **Preliminary Hypothesis**: 
   Based on these life events:
   - The **午 (Wu – Horse) Hour** seems plausible, as it introduces a strong Fire influence that can represent wealth, competition, and potential conflicts. Fire’s interaction with Water could explain his entry into a high-energy, competitive career, the financial challenges and restrictions of his arrest and conviction, and the 2005 injury.

4. **Next Steps for Verification**: 
   - To refine this further, we could analyze specific annual Luck Pillars and cycles that include strong Fire or Wood influences to verify if the events align consistently with the hypothesized 午 (Horse) Hour.

If this hypothesis resonates or if additional events are available, I can further validate the estimated TOB based on detailed analysis within the hypothesized chart. Let me know if you’d like to proceed in this direction!

[smsek]

西元：　1977年11月12日12時 0分　 0秒　　　　　　　　　　　性別：男性　
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　
八字：　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　大運（虛歲）　　
　　　　　時　　　　日　　　　月　　　　年　　　　３　→　　１３　庚戌
　　　　　柱　　　　柱　　　　柱　　　　柱　　　１３　→　　２３　己酉
　　　　　：　　　　：　　　　：　　　　：　　　２３　→　　３３　戊申
　　　　　正　　　　　　　　　偏　　　　偏　　　３３　→　　４３　丁未
　　　　　官　　　　　　　　　印　　　　財　　★４３　→　　５４　丙午
　　　　　戊　　　　癸　　　　辛　　　　丁　　　５４　→　　６４　乙巳
　　　　　午　　　　酉　　　　亥　　　　巳　　　６４　→　　７４　甲辰
　　　　　己丁　　　　辛　　　甲壬　　庚戊丙　　７４　→　　８４　癸卯
　　　　　七偏　　　　偏　　　傷劫　　正正正　　８４　→　　９４　壬寅
　　　　　殺財　　　　印　　　官財　　印官財

[smsek]

Based on the provided Bazi chart using the Horse Hour, we’ll analyze potential freedom indicators for this individual, especially focusing on the Luck Pillars and annual influences that could indicate a release from restrictions or notable life changes.

### Key Elements in the Bazi Chart
- **Day Master**: 癸 (Gui, Yin Water) – assumed strong, given the Day Master’s interactions and resources.
- **Key Elements**:
  - **Wealth (財)**: Represented by Fire, as Fire controls Metal, which supports the strong Water Day Master.
  - **Freedom**: Represented by Wood, providing an outlet for the strong Water nature.

### Luck Pillars
The current Luck Pillar is **丙午 (Bing Wu, Fire Horse)**, from ages 43 to 54, which emphasizes Fire. This Pillar is significant as it brings a combination of Fire (Wealth) and Wood, aligning with themes of restriction and control, yet also indicating potential opportunities for freedom due to Wood’s influence.

1. **丙午 (43–54)**:
   - **Fire Influence**: This Luck Pillar may intensify the restriction on Water due to the strong Fire (Wealth element). The Fire could bring about challenges and focus on wealth-related themes (finances, control), which might manifest as ongoing restrictions.
   - **Possible Freedom Years**: Although Fire might not indicate immediate release, Wood years or years with significant Wood influences (freedom and growth for Water) during this Pillar could present shifts.
   
2. **Next Luck Pillar – 乙巳 (54–64)**:
   - Transitioning to this Luck Pillar brings **Wood (乙) and Fire (巳)**. The Wood in 乙 signifies freedom and expansion for the Water Day Master, which could be beneficial.
   - **Release Potential**: This Luck Pillar is more promising for freedom, especially during years dominated by Wood. Since 乙巳 includes both Wood (freedom) and Fire, it suggests a transition toward liberation starting at around age 54.

### Notable Years for Potential Release
Given the above Luck Pillars, here are specific annual cycles that could signify freedom or release:

1. **甲 Wood Years** (Wood represents freedom):
   - **甲辰 Year (2024)**: This year contains Wood and Earth, and Earth may slightly counterbalance Fire’s restrictions on Water.
   - **甲寅 Year (2034)**: This year is strongly associated with Wood, which could support the release process in the next Luck Pillar.

2. **Years with Strong Wood**:
   - Years containing both Wood and Fire elements, particularly during the 乙巳 (54–64) Luck Pillar, could signify transformative changes and opportunities for freedom.

### Summary and Estimated Freedom Timing
The most likely timing for release or significant life changes appears to be **around the age of 54**, as he enters the **乙巳 Luck Pillar**, which combines Wood and Fire in a manner that may alleviate restrictions from previous cycles. Annual cycles during this pillar, especially those with strong Wood elements (e.g., **甲寅 in 2034**), could offer the most favorable conditions for achieving greater freedom.

[nin99]

@smsek ,very intresting point of view.

Why you think that my mind was very conduse and I have big pressure.Me even if I was born în rich family I have law support from them.

Wu hour for lee murray îs equal Chen Bing for me because has he s hour officer or Chen or wu and wealth Bing or wu.

How the chart work?!
I din t rob any bank but i was at trial because of the lawsuits with my rich father.I am very sad because it wasn t allow me to do shat I wabt în my life or study.
You think marțial arts can help me or kickboxing.I want to be the person frim the past but can t.do tou belgiene every Explorer drom my father îs Richer than me but they have law degree or morality comparative with me.
When I will meet my wife,but will I be married!
I was rich 2014 2015 ,2016 fall but 2017 good again țil july,after july not so good
2018 again great maybe because îs fire element.

Ypu think this Mao from my chart zi Mao punishment can broke my freedom?

When get older get rich or poor?now în prezent not so great!

[JLim (Darma W)]

nin99, please don't write about different things in one topic.  One thing in one topic.  This topic is about Lee Murray.

[nin99]

@JLim (Darma W) ,ok
What you think about him?
When he will be free?

Why so much daymaster like floyd mayweather ir manny pacquiao have big problem în one moment of the life?!

To be the month pillar from original chart .

My view îs that lee murray was predestinated to be a clash and roober person because of strong robwealth month and indirect resource în that case.

If you look at Bruce Lee chart rob wealth pillar but from original chart from lp xin Mao before he died,bring an huge celebrity

Rob wealth can be good for others bring mobster behaivour for other fame

[nin99]

He must be free!
I think his before îs from strong indirect resource=which absorb any discipline or earth and rob wealth -hai Star that clash he s passion for life or și!!

[nin99]

@smsek this why he has so hot body and married în 2000 and divorce în 2008.zi hai water friend ,zi shen ,from lp 2008 from ap brake he s freedom or hai and make divorce demolish he s wu or horse.


Why you think he become robber if he was rich.why he rob if he was strong  în financial Field?

[nin99]

@smsek I Found

2035 also wood year .
Look at the video!


https://youtu.be/cngMQTZNu-g?si=sMN1FUAm3CFKJhB6

I give you a private mesage.I hope your rediction îs very god.I will tell you a storry