Salt Alman vs Elon Musk

[nin99]

Salt Alman
Xin geng yin
Mao chen chou

Ellon musk
Jia jia xin
Shen wu hai

Who will win!?
I pick ellon musk becauae saltamnan enter in zi lp-zi mao uncivilizated punishment
Bing wu
This year meet wu or direct officer =law for him
Wu clash mao


Defintely elon musk

[nin99]

Salt Alman

He is rich because 2 tombs
Chou metal tomb
Chen water tomb
Read he is born at wei  or wood tomb=strong money
He s lp is bing zi
Zi chen watee
Zi chen chou=winter friend s so he s earth elements bevome another two water element s.
This year he will see the law or bing,he s daymaster is attack by zi from lp and wu from lp so I think the law with elon musk will be very bad for him

[nin99]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/27/elon-musk-sam-altman-open-ai-lawsuit

[Arena]

His name is Sam Altman
He has stated that he's born "around 5am" in Chicago. Look into his chart on astro.com, stating 5am as birth time. But it's listed as Rodden rating A, which means it's just from memory, not his birth certificate.

Why do you state that he is rich because of two earth branches that are not the tombs for his wealth element?
If he is Xin metal, his wealth would be wood. There is wood stem on year pillar that combines with Geng on month pillar to make metal? And he's also sitting on wood in Mao branch. Mao branch is in half directional combination with Chen to form more wood.

We don't know at what hour he's born - but if he's born during YIN hour, then there is a full directional wood frame in the branches. And that would be a Geng-Yin hour pillar. If he's born in Mao hour, it's Xin-Mao. If he's born at Wei hour, then the hour pillar is Yi-Wei, so more wood on stems and the wood tomb.

Sam Altman first achieved significant financial success in 2012 when his company, Loopt, was acquired for $43.4 million, which he used to launch his venture fund, Hydrazine Capital.  He officially attained billionaire status in March 2024, when the Bloomberg Billionaires Index estimated his net worth at $2 billion, primarily driven by his investment portfolio rather than equity in OpenAI.

He got rich in 2012, Ren-Chen just after starting his Ding-Chou LP.
Could his hour pillar actually also be Ren-Chen? That would mean more Chen combining with Mao day branch and it would also mean that the Ding-Ren wood combination into wood would take place and be extra amplified that year 2012.

His attainment of billionaire status in 2024, Jia Chen year in March, either Yin or Mao month.
Jia-Chen is water tomb feeding Jia stem and also combining with the Mao-Chen in his chart.

Out of the tombs, Chen branch seems to be a key to his story? And perhaps the Yin-Mao-Chen wood directional frame is the key to make him more wood?

Did you check if he has some kind of "special pattern" Bazi? I'm interested in those because it's unusually huge success.

[Arena]

And about Elon Musk.
His birth time is not really known - but in astro.com there is a guessed time at 7.30 am. Rodden rating B, which is not reliable. But if we go with that time, then his hour pillar is Wu-Chen and Chen is his Golden Carriage.

bazi-calculator.com says that there is a hidden triangular combination between Chen and Shen (although Zi is missing from that). He's deemed as a weak Jia DM from that calculator. So perhaps he needs strength from his luck pillars to acquire wealth? If he has the Wu-Chen hour pillar, he does have a lot of wealth in late career and it doesn't surprise me if his children pillar has that Golden Carriage... it's very unusual that modern day people in the western world have so many children.

Elon Musk became a billionaire in 2012 at the age of 41, when the value of Tesla stock surged, leading to his first appearance on the Forbes Billionaires List with a net worth of $2 billion.

His path to wealth began earlier:

In 1999, he became a multi-millionaire at age 27 after selling his first company, Zip2, for $307 million, earning him $22 million.

In 2002, he became a centi-millionaire (over $100 million) after eBay acquired PayPal (which evolved from his company X.com) for $1.5 billion, earning him $175 million.

While these events made him very wealthy, it was the success and rising stock price of Tesla that officially propelled him into billionaire status in 2012.

In 1999 he was in his Xin-Mao LP (Mao is activation to Golden Carriage). It is Ji-Mao year, so Ji-Jia combination into earth. There is a Hai-Mao half combo to wood, Wu-Mao destruction and Chen-Mao half combo to wood and "activation". So this is strength to his DM with all that wood.

In 2002 he's still in Xin-Mao LP, but it's a Ren-Wu year.

In 2012, billionaire status, we have a Ren-Chen year in Geng-Yin LP. Both are interacting with his Chen Golden Carriage hour branch and there's also the Yin-Hai wood combo to give him strength.
That LP also forms the "three heavenly nobleman" structure in his chart if hour pillar is correct, Wu-Jia-Geng.

He's currently in his Ji-Chou LP, full of earth and he's going into his Wu-Zi LP in 2028 which has that indirect wealth on the stem and that will be a full hidden triangular combination of Chen-Zi-Shen, again a positive activation to his Golden Carriage and Zi water feeding his DM.

I don't know how to spot a special kind of Bazi - so I don't know if there's a lot more to his chart... but these are the basics I see.

I'd like to add that if this hour pillar is right, then he has conception pillar as Yi-You and his life pillar/ming-gong as Yi-Wei. So if we take that into account his life pillar is wood sitting on earth and the Wei branch possibly interacts with the destiny when he's going through his Xin-Mao LP to become rich (Hai-Mao-Wei full wood frame).

Please let us know if Bazi specialists are seeing much more to these charts.

[Arena]

I'd also like to add in here that in Sam Altman's case, if the hour pillar is Mao, then his conception pillar is Xin Wei and life pillar/ming-gong is Bing-Xu whereas if his hour pillar is Yin then his ming-gong is Ding-Hai and Hai branch is Golden Carriage for his DM.

[Arena]

You might be right about the punishment Zi-Mao giving him trouble. But at the same time, Zi also combines with his Chou and Chen. And possibly this Zi luck pillar also combines with his ming-gong, making that Hai-Zi-Chou full water directional water frame to feed his wood.

I just wanted to add this description that I was reading about:

Classical Text
San Ming Tong Hui (《三命通会》)

Life of Abundance (专财)
The Life of Abundance (专财) is a distinctive pattern within Bazi that signifies concentrated wealth. The essence of this pattern lies in the word ?专? (exclusive/focused), indicating that the Wealth Star in the chart is singular and powerful?most often gathered in the Hour Pillar. Unlike the Earner Pattern (正财格), which relies on stable salaries or fixed income, those with the Life of Abundance pattern typically have more diverse and dynamic sources of wealth. They excel at seizing opportunities, leveraging networks, and capitalizing on projects, making them classic examples of ?striking it rich with the right timing.?

How to Identify
The core identification method is: the Heavenly Stem and Earthly Branch of the Hour Pillar represent the Day Master?s Wealth Star, forming a ?Twilight Earner? (时上正财) or ?Sunset Bounty? (时上偏财) combination. Among these, two special structures described in the classic text San Ming Tong Hui are the most renowned.

Interpretation as follows:

General Form: The Hour Pillar contains the Day Master?s Wealth Star. For example, a Geng (庚) or Xin (辛) Metal Day Master born during Yin (寅) or Mao (卯) hours (Wood as Wealth); or a Wu (戊) or Ji (己) Earth Day Master born during Hai (亥) or Zi (子) hours (Water as Wealth), and so on.

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Those whose charts fall into the Life of Abundance pattern rarely accumulate wealth through routine or conventional means. They possess a natural acumen for business opportunities, excel at networking, and thrive in project-based ventures. Born entrepreneurs or investors, they often reach the peak of their wealth in mid to later life, as the Hour Pillar governs gateways and later fortune. Their financial success frequently blossoms in distant places or emerging fields. This pattern is about ?seeking wealth in motion,? not ?sitting back and enjoying riches.? Consequently, their financial journey may be marked by volatility, but when opportunity knocks, they can swiftly amass substantial wealth.

The Life of Abundance (专财) pattern in Bazi is a distinctive wealth configuration where the Wealth Star is concentrated, typically in the Hour Pillar. This pattern indicates an exclusive and powerful financial energy, enabling individuals to accumulate wealth from dynamic and diverse sources. Unlike conventional earners, those with this Bazi pattern excel in entrepreneurship, investment, and project-based ventures, often reaching financial success later in life. This chart structure is renowned for fostering business acumen, networking skills, and the ability to seize lucrative opportunities.


To identify the Life of Abundance pattern in Bazi, examine the Hour Pillar for the presence of the Day Master?s Wealth Star. Look for combinations like ?Twilight Earner? (时上正财) or ?Sunset Bounty? (时上偏财). Classic examples include ?Wealth Star on the Throne? (Jia Day, Ji Si Hour) and ?Peer with Wealth? (Bing Day, Bing Shen Hour). Checking the Heavenly Stem and Earthly Branch of the Hour Pillar for these specific relationships is essential for accurate identification of this wealth-focused chart.