Quiz 36- Divination: Which year is lucky to move ?

[Tientai ✝️]

Hi, @Phoenix ..
My view on this subject is :
Taking Month  (branch) as a Commander of 30 days (branches ) ..
A. For Month subduing/ hurting / clashing and ---- Day producing / Supporting 
- This looks like an example of a cloudy weather all Month long but some days occasionally there's sunlight... (Inside this bad condition / situation .. there is a drop of Hope / or opportunity or chance for the better - [swift happenings but not last long ] ).
B. For Month Producing supporting and ------ Day clashing / hurting / insulting.
- This like as a sunny Month with occasionally some days with clouds ... the rest explanation is yours 
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[Phoenix]

thank you, senior Tientai

that's very insightful 

[Tientai ✝️]

thank you, senior Tientai

that's very insightful 

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[Sacrar]

Hi all.....

in example above, day EB and month EB are the same, so we have no doubt to determine qi phase of lines. How if day EB and month EB are against each other? Take example below,  based on day EB (Si-Snake), line 1 Si and line 4 Wu are strong. But based on month EB (Zi-Rat), they are dead. So, line 1 & 4 are prosper or dead?



thank you

I share a quote from Alex Chiu on the influence of Day versus Month.

Many books taught that if the appointed is struck by the month, the appointed can be described as a dead root with a dying stem.  Even something comes to produce the appointed, the appointed cannot be saved.  If something comes to hurt the appointed, the appointed can be destroyed with ease.  But based on my experience, the power of the month is not as powerful as how other books described.  I personally don't focus too much on the month.  I mainly focus on the date.  I feel that the date is much more crucial than the month.  I feel that the month only has 35% of governing power, and the date has 65% of governing power.   If the month favors the appointed while the date kills the appointed, the appointed star still is healthy.  If the month kills the appointed while the date favors the appointed, the appointed star is strong.  If both the month and the date kills the appointed, the appointed star is dead.

My reference book in Spanish only takes into account the influence of the Month. The day is only used for everything else (six animals, 12 life stages...).

Others say it depends on the issue/question. In some cases the influence of the day is more important (e.g. a sports result on the same day of the casting) and in others the month is more important (e.g. how the economy will develop in the next months).

I have also seen masters who do calculations between the date of day and month and take an intermediate value resulting from either adding, multiplying or subtracting the strength of Month and Day.

[Phoenix]

thanks, Sacrar

the last paragraph really make sense. it would make the reading richer in result.

[duesouth]

Hi all,

FYI. My translation of the case study using the 1691AD version of Zengshan Buyi (ZSBY) (see ZSBY-9 pdf in https://fivearts.org/index.php?topic=2011.0):

[Ex.34-145. E/T to E/M]
如未月戊辰日。占年運。得地雷復。變謙卦。
Example: Wei month, Wu Chen day. Divining about year?s luck. Obtained Earth-Thunder Returning [E/T], transforming to Humility gua [E/M].
子   酉   丶丶         
財   亥   丶丶         
兄   丑   丶丶應         
兄   辰   ㄨ      申   
官   寅   丶丶         
財   子   ○世      辰   

Earth-Thunder Returning [E/T]   Earth-Mountain Humility [E/M]
Son-Daughter   You metal   丶丶   Son-Daughter   You metal   丶丶
Wife-Wealth   Hai water   丶丶   Wife-Wealth   Hai water   丶丶
Brother-Sister   Chou earth   丶丶 Object   Brother-Sister   Chou earth   丶丶
Brother-Sister   Chen earth   ㄨ   Son-Daughter   Shen metal   丶
Officer-Ghost   Yin(t) wood   丶丶   Father-Mother   Wu(h) fire   丶丶
Wife-Wealth   Zi water   ○ Subject   Brother-Sister   Chen earth   丶丶

斷曰。世爻子水。雖是申子辰三合水局。不宜日月剋世。世爻化墓。又化囘頭剋。動爻辰土又剋。此乃世爻休囚。而無炁也。
Interpreting, I said: ?Subject line is Zi water. Although have Shen-Zi-Chen Three Combine water structure, not suitable that day and month counters Subject. Subject line changing into Tomb(p), also changing to turn back to counter. Moving line Chen earth also counters. This is Subject line Resting(s)-Trapped(s) and without Qi.?

卯年占。卒于午年。應午年者。世臨歲破之年也。豈可謂之墓中人。不沖而不發耶。
In Mao year, divining. Died in Wu(h) year. Response in Wu(h) year as Subject at year of Year Breaker. How can we describe it as person in Tomb(p), [if] not clash, not obtain?