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Gmuli

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Tips and tricks for working with stems/branches
« on: June 21, 2019, 03:37:20 PM »
We were talking on one of the problems with screenshots of the site, and I thought that the line with "X days until end of void" is often left out of the Image. And since I use the days until end of void a lot, I decided to share a quick way to calculate how to know when void will end for any pillar.

So the trick here is that void, by its definition always ends after the 10 day stream ends. And that streams always start with Jia and they end with Gui.

In that sense at every point in time we will know on the next Jia day(the nearest one form where we are) the Void Stream will be over.

However, that by itself may not be enough, still how to know how many days until next Jia?

Well, the stems are 10.
So we just turn the stem to a number. And subtract it from 10. Meaning that number will be the amount of days until next Jia comes.

Example:

Today is Ji/Chou day. Next Jia day will be first day of the new stream. To find out when we do 10-6(Ji) and we get 4. 4 Days until end of stream(the site says 5 as that is 4 more + today).

Another example:

Geng/Zi pillar. Geng = 7. Next Jia is new stream. 10-7 = 3 days until end of void.

Summary:
Just take 10 and subtract the number of the stem. Then if you want add 1 for the current day as the calc do.

So basically if the screenshot doesn't show "X days until end of stream/void" we can just calculate it for a few seconds like that. : )

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Re: Tips and tricks for working with stems/branches
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 04:33:31 PM »
That's correct.  So it would be handy for all learners of Bazi/Liu Yao/QMDJ etc. to memorize this list:

1. Jia
2. Yi
3. Bing
4. Ding
5. Wu
6. Ji
7. Geng
8. Xin
9. Ren
10. Gui
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Re: Tips and tricks for working with stems/branches
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 05:19:53 PM »
Ah, yea need to know the numbers.
But they are very ordered too. We have the producing relation so Wood>Fire>Earth>Metal>Water and we should remember that anyway. Then we have 2 position always Yang then Yin.

Wood>Fire>Earth>Metal>Water
1>2>3>4>5
So we can do Producing Place x2 - 1. Then for Yin stem we add 1 more.

So lets say we want to find the number of Yang Metal
4 at the producing cycle.

So 4*2-1 = 7  for Geng
Then if we actually wanted Yin Metal we add one more so 8 for Xin.

Or for Bing.
Place in producing 2, so :

2*2-1 = 3

Then if we want Ding it would be 4.

That way just need to remember the formula and the cycle Wood>Fire>Earth>Metal>Water. : )