Ten heavenly stems Chinese Characters

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Ten heavenly stems
Chinese Characters


甲 JIA – Pictogram. Germinating seed, and also armor. The image of a cracked seed coating worn by a plant after it has sprouted. Original meaning: the coating of seeds after they germinate, the outer shell of plant fruits: cracked (cracked appearance).

Etymological evolution




Mandarin dictionary
The first in the sky. Shell, shell, armor, a protective hard shell on an animal such as: turtle shell, scale armor. Protective clothing worn by ancient soldiers made of leather or sheet metal. It refers to soldiers. Same as "蛛" in ancient ancient times: shoulder blade.

 
Kangxi Dictionary
The first of the Ten Celestial Stems used to mark the year, month, and day.
The first generation of grass and trees. Thefirst group of things is called Jia.  The storm is coming, and all the fruits, grass, and trees are covered in armor.
Yuanfeng of the Song Dynasty used the righteousness and courage of all people as protection. Shaoxing Xian ordered Huaihan Xian to take the two armors of the master's army. The ten soldiers were the armor and the five armors were the regiments.
 "Fu Jia will attack him."   
 "The garment is also called Jia."
"Armor is like the shape of grass and trees growing from seeds."

Shouwen Dictionary
In the Historical Records and Almanacs it is said: Jia means that all things emerge from the armor of the talisman.

 



乙 YI The pictogram suggests the effort to germinate the seed. A plant in development. Original meaning: like a plant that twists and grows. Winding, rolling, sliding, twisting, Another older interpretation of the pictogram, from the first Chinese dictionary Erya 300ac. says: "The intestine of a fish"

Etymological evolution

 

Mandarin dictionary
The second of the Ten Celestial Stems.
The order or degree belongs to the second. The second element to any item in an ordered list,
Compound words
Tai Yi, name of the star Nobleman Tai Yi.
Name of the Mountain, Tai Yi is close to the capital of the sky.
Tai Yi, immortal.

Kangxi Dictionary
A tree in spring that twists and its Yin Qi is still strong. 
Jia means that all things come out of the armor; Ji means that all things are born and develop.
Historical documents from the text ——"Send to Weixuan" by Su Shi of the Song Dynasty. "There are bones on both sides of the tiger's ribs and at the end of the tail, which are shaped like the character 'Y'. The tiger is just as powerful as the word "Y," about three inches long. It is placed under the skin on both sides of the sidewall. If you wear it, it can intimidate the crowd when it approaches officials . No officer wears it, no one hates it. It's like a tiger holding the second hand. "

Shouwuen
Historical records say: Yi refers to the flow of all things.







丙 BING. Meanings of character radical traits (radicals are parts of a character that can provide an indication of its meaning) the first stroke 一 means one, the second stroke 入 means to enter inside, the third 冂 the outside. 
There are several theories about the meaning of the pictogram: the shoulders (from the  Shouwen dictionary). – the tail of a fish (from the Erya dictionary 300 BC).).– In addition: pedestal – coffee table – original shape of the handle.

Whatever its original meaning, it has been lost and replaced by its ancient use as the third of the ten Celestial Stems.
 
 Baxter and Sagart (2014) note the phonological relationship between 丙 and 兩 "a pair"; the way these two are graphically related suggests that these two words are not only phonologically similar but also etymologically related, with 丙, meaning "couplet" or "bivalve", referring to an asterism.

Etymological evolution



 
Mandarin dictionary
Third place in Heaven. Used to arrange the order of the rankings, after A and B, indicating the third. Another name for fire. Synonymous with bright fire.
Compound words: Astronomy Huainanzi: "The day is Bingding" Bing and Ding are both fire."Sun of fire. Bing and Ding belong to fire in the five elements, so fire is commonly called " Bing " or " Bingding ". Fu bing  付丙 means to burn.

Kangxi Dictionary
Tai Sui in Bing is said to be a weak sign. The month is on Bing, which means repair. From Bing, the name of a deity.

Shouwen
"Located to the south, everything is perfect and bright. When Yin Qi begins to rise, Yang Qi decreases. From start to finish. One is Yang. Bing supports Yi, like a human sidekick."If the third is in the south, everything will become Bing."  The south belongs to fire, and Bing and Ding are suitable for that, so Bing has the appearance of civilization.



丁 DING. Pictogram: The bronze inscription is shaped like a nail's head when viewed from above, and the small seal is shaped like a nail when viewed from the side. Original meaning: nail, Ding is the ancient word for "nail".
However, there are also several theories on the meaning of pictograms:
1-   a city wall. The derivative 成 has the sense of becoming, realizing, completing and in other characters that contain Ding there is the meaning of standing upright, erect, correct position.

2-   A head, the derivatives 天頂 have the sense of top of the sky, crown, the highest part of the head, others refer to original, Yuan energy. Yuan means origin, source. It is meant to indicate the cosmic energy that activates every phenomenon. It is the original Qi, the one we receive as an inheritance at birth, the result of the union of the mother's Jing with that of the father, combined with cosmic Qi.

Etymological evolution

 



Mandarin dictionary
Ding, The fourth place of the Celestial Stems.  Man. Adult men. Strong. A strong young man, a young male. People, population. A servant or person who performs certain jobs or occupations. For example: gardener, cook, housekeeper. Moving, meeting.
Examples of compound words: Dingdong, describes the sound of the beating of jade or wind chimes. Dinglin, simulates the sound of spring or dripping water. Dingcedīngcè, vecchio register of families


Kangxi Dictionary:
The fourth position of the celestial stems corresponds to the terrestrial branches and is used to record the year, month, and day.
A strong man.
Ji ding, the name of the scarab. People take it and take it with them. People like it and fall in love with it.

Shouwen
It is said that in summer everything is in full bloom. Ding Chengbing is like the human heart.
Everything is solid in summer.



戊 WU - The radicals, of the character, as well as the first pictograms show a spear with a large blade, a stick with a blade.

Etymological evolution

 

 



Mandarin dictionary
The fifth celestial stem. Orientation is central.

Kangxi Dictionary
It refers to the soil. For example: Wuji, referring to Wu and Ji over a ten-day period. Wuji belongs to the center and belongs to the earth in the five elements; thus, Wuji is used to refer to the earth; Wufang (Wuji Day). The sound is majestic. Between the ten stems. Everything is lush.


Shouwen
In ancient times, the ten stems were used to correspond to the five directions. Wu is among the ten stems, because it refers to the five or six in the center (?) that unite heaven and earth. The five dragons rule the five directions and are the gods of the five elements. The five dragons are the five elements.
The shape of the Wu character is said to be like the six armors and the five intertwined elements. It is as if Liujia and five dragons are held and intertwined together.

Connected to WU 戊 are:
兀 wù : tall and flat, also high and protruding.
屼 wù : themountain is bare and the mountain is steep. Towering: "There are stone peaks there."   
阢 wù : the mountain is covered with earth.
剉 wù: the mountain is high and steep "The mountains are high and gloomy, the mountains rise up to the blue clouds".



己 Ji Pictogram: thread in a loom. The shape of the characters on the oracle bone is like the shape of a rope. "Ji" is the ancient word that is used to mean "himself" under the guise of "himself." Original meaning: silk thread, used to wrap silk bundles, oneself.

Etymological evolution
 
 




Mandarin dictionary
The sixth of the ten Celestial Stems.
Self, himself; personal, private, sacrificing oneself for the public good; being dissatisfied with oneself; know yourself.

Kangxi Dictionary
A gentleman appreciates others but despises himself , putting others before himself .

Shouwen
It is as if all things are hidden in different forms. Ji Cheng Wu is like a human belly."
"Wu and Ji are all in the palace. Therefore, the central soil is Wuji Day"
Lu Li Zhi said, "Discipline and self-discipline. The explanation of the name is: "Ji" –  everything has a definite shape and can be recorded. When you're in the center and people are out, you can keep track of things."

Compound words, examples
Sī ji - money and goods stored privately by family members in the past.
Tī ji - close, caring - body language



庚 GENG Pictogram: Hands holding a shield. It contains the radical gong 廾 which means hands joined as a sign of respect, (more recently, bow,) and the radical gan 干 which means shield but also dry, devoid of moisture.

Etymological evolution


 


Mandarin dictionary
Age. Reimburse. Change.
Note by Zheng Xuan of the Han Dynasty: "Geng means compensation."
The seventh stem of the Ten Celestial Stems.

Kangxi Dictionary
Geng is in the west, it's like the Geng of everything in autumn.
Chang Geng, Mercury. The metal is located to the west of the sun, so when the sun is about to rise, it will be seen in the east.
Age is also called Geng.

Shouwen
Geng is to the west. The book of the law says so. Geng means that Yin Qi brings everything to change. Everything has solemnly changed. Geng shows the real new things. Like autumn, all things are full of reality.

Compound words: Chang Geng , one of the celestial phenomena, often classified as demonic energy or demonic star. It could refer to a comet of a specific shape, or it could be an aurora. "Historical documents. Volume 27. "Book of Heavenly Officers": "Chang Geng is like a piece of cloth that covers the sky. When you see this star, the army rises." Volume 1 and 2. "Astronomical Records": "Daemon Star: One is called a comet, the so-called sweeping star. ... Chang Geng is angry, bandits are rampant."

Gengxin, the main killer of ghosts and gods, in myths and legends. "Historical documents. Volume 27. "Book of Heavenly Officials"



辛 XIN Pictogram, from the oracle inscriptions on the bones it looks like an ancient torture knife. Original meaning: serious crime. Crime.





Mandarin dictionary
Pungent. Spicy taste.
Vegetables with a pungent flavor. Such as onions, garlic, etc.
"Compendium of Ming Dynasty Materia Medica "In the past, people abstained from five pungent foods to ward off evil spirits, which were called leeks, shallots, onions, garlic, and ginger.'"
Work, difficulty: hard work, toil.
Sadness: bitterness.
The eighth among the Celestial Stems.

Kangxi Dictionary
In autumn, all things are ripe. The taste of Xin is pungent and the pain makes you cry. It is said that all things are stopped for the first time, so it is painful. The reason gold tastes pungent is because Western evil is bad for things.

Shouwen
A serious sin. "Xin cries in pain, he is the image of a sinner. All the sins, the slaughter, the guilt, and the resignation all come from Xin."

Compound words: Xinchu suffering; Xinshang sadness.
Xinke spicy and severe; Xinliang spicy and fresh.

壬 REN Pictogram: Like a person carrying a weight. Original meaning: to carry a burden, a burden. The radicals that make up the character mean "pole for carrying work".

Etymological evolution

 


Mandarin dictionary
The ninth place of the celestial stems.
Traitor. An intelligent and flattering person. Skillful argumentation.
Ren-Gong is the legendary god of water. Therefore, it is the name of water.
Ren means great.

Kangxi Dictionary
The Ren location is to the north.

Shouwen
Ren is located to the north. The Yin and Yang poles arise, so "Yi" says: "Dragon fights in nature are connected."
"So Yi said. Dragons fight in the wild."
"Yin and Yang relationship, thingsare pregnant. Ren looks like a pregnant woman."

Compound words, examples: Renlin, great looks, Renren, a treacherous person.




癸 GUI Pictogram: the shape of the oracle characters on bone, represents two ancient crossed weapons . Original meaning: ancient weapons. Genre halberd.
 
Etymological evolution




Mandarin dictionary
The tenth place of the celestial stems. Women's menstruation. Gui to the north rules the water.
Gui is the last of the celestial roots, and is homophonic with "ghost"; thus, the character Gui is used to refer to the Guimen Pass., ghost's gate.

Kangxi Dictionary
Gui means to return. It is winter at that time, the direction is north, the five elements belong to water and the five fortunes belong to fire.
Gui remembers the shape of water flowing into the earth from every direction. Gui Cheng Ren looks like a human foot.

Shouwen
In winter, the water and land are flat. You can enjoy it.  The book of the law says so. Gui is also called Yan Kui. It is said that all things can be explored. Lu Li Zhi said "Gui. It is like water flowing over the earth from every direction."

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甲 JIA – Pictogram. Germinating seed, and also armor. The image of a cracked seed coating worn by a plant after it has sprouted. Original meaning: the coating of seeds after they germinate, the outer shell of plant fruits: cracked (cracked appearance).
Mandarin dictionary
The first in the sky. Shell, shell, armor, a protective hard shell on an animal such as: turtle shell, scale armor. Protective clothing worn by ancient soldiers made of leather or sheet metal. It refers to soldiers. Same as "蛛" in ancient ancient times: shoulder blade.
Kangxi Dictionary
The first of the Ten Celestial Stems used to mark the year, month, and day.
The first generation of grass and trees. Thefirst group of things is called Jia.  The storm is coming, and all the fruits, grass, and trees are covered in armor.
Yuanfeng of the Song Dynasty used the righteousness and courage of all people as protection. Shaoxing Xian ordered Huaihan Xian to take the two armors of the master's army. The ten soldiers were the armor and the five armors were the regiments.
 "Fu Jia will attack him."   
 "The garment is also called Jia."
"Armor is like the shape of grass and trees growing from seeds."
Shouwen Dictionary
In the Historical Records and Almanacs it is said: Jia means that all things emerge from the armor of the talisman.

 乙 YI The pictogram suggests the effort to germinate the seed. A plant in development. Original meaning: like a plant that twists and grows. Winding, rolling, sliding, twisting, Another older interpretation of the pictogram, from the first Chinese dictionary Erya 300ac. says: "The intestine of a fish"
Mandarin dictionary
The second of the Ten Celestial Stems.
The order or degree belongs to the second. The second element to any item in an ordered list,
Compound words
Tai Yi, name of the star Nobleman Tai Yi.
Name of the Mountain, Tai Yi is close to the capital of the sky.
Tai Yi, immortal.
Kangxi Dictionary
A tree in spring that twists and its Yin Qi is still strong. 
Jia means that all things come out of the armor; Ji means that all things are born and develop.
Historical documents from the text ——"Send to Weixuan" by Su Shi of the Song Dynasty. "There are bones on both sides of the tiger's ribs and at the end of the tail, which are shaped like the character 'Y'. The tiger is just as powerful as the word "Y," about three inches long. It is placed under the skin on both sides of the sidewall. If you wear it, it can intimidate the crowd when it approaches officials . No officer wears it, no one hates it. It's like a tiger holding the second hand. "
Shouwuen
Historical records say: Yi refers to the flow of all things.

丙 BING. Meanings of character radical traits (radicals are parts of a character that can provide an indication of its meaning) the first stroke 一 means one, the second stroke 入 means to enter inside, the third 冂 the outside. 
There are several theories about the meaning of the pictogram: the shoulders (from the  Shouwen dictionary). – the tail of a fish (from the Erya dictionary 300 BC).).– In addition: pedestal – coffee table – original shape of the handle.
Whatever its original meaning, it has been lost and replaced by its ancient use as the third of the ten Celestial Stems.
 Baxter and Sagart (2014) note the phonological relationship between 丙 and 兩 "a pair"; the way these two are graphically related suggests that these two words are not only phonologically similar but also etymologically related, with 丙, meaning "couplet" or "bivalve", referring to an asterism.
Mandarin dictionary
Third place in Heaven. Used to arrange the order of the rankings, after A and B, indicating the third. Another name for fire. Synonymous with bright fire.
Compound words: Astronomy Huainanzi: "The day is Bingding" Bing and Ding are both fire."Sun of fire. Bing and Ding belong to fire in the five elements, so fire is commonly called " Bing " or " Bingding ". Fu bing  付丙 means to burn.
Kangxi Dictionary
Tai Sui in Bing is said to be a weak sign. The month is on Bing, which means repair. From Bing, the name of a deity.
Shouwen
"Located to the south, everything is perfect and bright. When Yin Qi begins to rise, Yang Qi decreases. From start to finish. One is Yang. Bing supports Yi, like a human sidekick."If the third is in the south, everything will become Bing."  The south belongs to fire, and Bing and Ding are suitable for that, so Bing has the appearance of civilization.

丁 DING. Pictogram: The bronze inscription is shaped like a nail's head when viewed from above, and the small seal is shaped like a nail when viewed from the side. Original meaning: nail, Ding is the ancient word for "nail".
However, there are also several theories on the meaning of pictograms:
1-   a city wall. The derivative 成 has the sense of becoming, realizing, completing and in other characters that contain Ding there is the meaning of standing upright, erect, correct position.
2-   A head, the derivatives 天頂 have the sense of top of the sky, crown, the highest part of the head, others refer to original, Yuan energy. Yuan means origin, source. It is meant to indicate the cosmic energy that activates every phenomenon. It is the original Qi, the one we receive as an inheritance at birth, the result of the union of the mother's Jing with that of the father, combined with cosmic Qi.
Mandarin dictionary
Ding, The fourth place of the Celestial Stems.  Man. Adult men. Strong. A strong young man, a young male. People, population. A servant or person who performs certain jobs or occupations. For example: gardener, cook, housekeeper. Moving, meeting.
Examples of compound words: Dingdong, describes the sound of the beating of jade or wind chimes. Dinglin, simulates the sound of spring or dripping water. Dingcedīngcè, vecchio register of families
Kangxi Dictionary:
The fourth position of the celestial stems corresponds to the terrestrial branches and is used to record the year, month, and day.
A strong man.
Ji ding, the name of the scarab. People take it and take it with them. People like it and fall in love with it.
Shouwen
It is said that in summer everything is in full bloom. Ding Chengbing is like the human heart.
Everything is solid in summer.

戊 WU - The radicals, of the character, as well as the first pictograms show a spear with a large blade, a stick with a blade.
Mandarin dictionary
The fifth celestial stem. Orientation is central.
Kangxi Dictionary
It refers to the soil. For example: Wuji, referring to Wu and Ji over a ten-day period. Wuji belongs to the center and belongs to the earth in the five elements; thus, Wuji is used to refer to the earth; Wufang (Wuji Day). The sound is majestic. Between the ten stems. Everything is lush.
Shouwen
In ancient times, the ten stems were used to correspond to the five directions. Wu is among the ten stems, because it refers to the five or six in the center (?) that unite heaven and earth. The five dragons rule the five directions and are the gods of the five elements. The five dragons are the five elements.
The shape of the Wu character is said to be like the six armors and the five intertwined elements. It is as if Liujia and five dragons are held and intertwined together.
Connected to WU 戊 are:
兀 wù : tall and flat, also high and protruding.
屼 wù : themountain is bare and the mountain is steep. Towering: "There are stone peaks there."   
阢 wù : the mountain is covered with earth.
剉 wù: the mountain is high and steep "The mountains are high and gloomy, the mountains rise up to the blue clouds".

己 Ji Pictogram: thread in a loom. The shape of the characters on the oracle bone is like the shape of a rope. "Ji" is the ancient word that is used to mean "himself" under the guise of "himself." Original meaning: silk thread, used to wrap silk bundles, oneself.
Mandarin dictionary
The sixth of the ten Celestial Stems.
Self, himself; personal, private, sacrificing oneself for the public good; being dissatisfied with oneself; know yourself.
Kangxi Dictionary
A gentleman appreciates others but despises himself , putting others before himself .
Shouwen
It is as if all things are hidden in different forms. Ji Cheng Wu is like a human belly."
"Wu and Ji are all in the palace. Therefore, the central soil is Wuji Day"
Lu Li Zhi said, "Discipline and self-discipline. The explanation of the name is: "Ji" –  everything has a definite shape and can be recorded. When you're in the center and people are out, you can keep track of things."
Compound words, examples
Sī ji - money and goods stored privately by family members in the past.
Tī ji - close, caring - body language

庚 GENG Pictogram: Hands holding a shield. It contains the radical gong 廾 which means hands joined as a sign of respect, (more recently, bow,) and the radical gan 干 which means shield but also dry, devoid of moisture.
Mandarin dictionary
Age. Reimburse. Change.
Note by Zheng Xuan of the Han Dynasty: "Geng means compensation."
The seventh stem of the Ten Celestial Stems.
Kangxi Dictionary
Geng is in the west, it's like the Geng of everything in autumn.
Chang Geng, Mercury. The metal is located to the west of the sun, so when the sun is about to rise, it will be seen in the east.
Age is also called Geng.
Shouwen
Geng is to the west. The book of the law says so. Geng means that Yin Qi brings everything to change. Everything has solemnly changed. Geng shows the real new things. Like autumn, all things are full of reality.
Compound words: Chang Geng , one of the celestial phenomena, often classified as demonic energy or demonic star. It could refer to a comet of a specific shape, or it could be an aurora. "Historical documents. Volume 27. "Book of Heavenly Officers": "Chang Geng is like a piece of cloth that covers the sky. When you see this star, the army rises." Volume 1 and 2. "Astronomical Records": "Daemon Star: One is called a comet, the so-called sweeping star. ... Chang Geng is angry, bandits are rampant."
Gengxin, the main killer of ghosts and gods, in myths and legends. "Historical documents. Volume 27. "Book of Heavenly Officials"

辛 XIN Pictogram, from the oracle inscriptions on the bones it looks like an ancient torture knife. Original meaning: serious crime. Crime.
Mandarin dictionary
Pungent. Spicy taste.
Vegetables with a pungent flavor. Such as onions, garlic, etc.
"Compendium of Ming Dynasty Materia Medica "In the past, people abstained from five pungent foods to ward off evil spirits, which were called leeks, shallots, onions, garlic, and ginger.'"
Work, difficulty: hard work, toil.
Sadness: bitterness.
The eighth among the Celestial Stems.
Kangxi Dictionary
In autumn, all things are ripe. The taste of Xin is pungent and the pain makes you cry. It is said that all things are stopped for the first time, so it is painful. The reason gold tastes pungent is because Western evil is bad for things.
Shouwen
A serious sin. "Xin cries in pain, he is the image of a sinner. All the sins, the slaughter, the guilt, and the resignation all come from Xin."
Compound words: Xinchu suffering; Xinshang sadness.
Xinke spicy and severe; Xinliang spicy and fresh.

壬 REN Pictogram: Like a person carrying a weight. Original meaning: to carry a burden, a burden. The radicals that make up the character mean "pole for carrying work".
Mandarin dictionary
The ninth place of the celestial stems.
Traitor. An intelligent and flattering person. Skillful argumentation.
Ren-Gong is the legendary god of water. Therefore, it is the name of water.
Ren means great.
Kangxi Dictionary
The Ren location is to the north.
Shouwen
Ren is located to the north. The Yin and Yang poles arise, so "Yi" says: "Dragon fights in nature are connected."
"So Yi said. Dragons fight in the wild."
"Yin and Yang relationship, thingsare pregnant. Ren looks like a pregnant woman."
Compound words, examples: Renlin, great looks, Renren, a treacherous person.

癸 GUI Pictogram: the shape of the oracle characters on bone, represents two ancient crossed weapons . Original meaning: ancient weapons. Genre halberd.
 Mandarin dictionary
The tenth place of the celestial stems. Women's menstruation. Gui to the north rules the water.
Gui is the last of the celestial roots, and is homophonic with "ghost"; thus, the character Gui is used to refer to the Guimen Pass., ghost's gate.
Kangxi Dictionary
Gui means to return. It is winter at that time, the direction is north, the five elements belong to water and the five fortunes belong to fire.
Gui remembers the shape of water flowing into the earth from every direction. Gui Cheng Ren looks like a human foot.
Shouwen
In winter, the water and land are flat. You can enjoy it.  The book of the law says so. Gui is also called Yan Kui. It is said that all things can be explored. Lu Li Zhi said "Gui. It is like water flowing over the earth from every direction."

[Spiritsfan]

Hello.

This is the designation of Gods. Heavenly stems are Gods. They have no material analogue. The material analogue has the energy corresponding to this God. Heavenly Yang metal is energy. Earthly Yang metal is its embodiment in the material world. Color. Cardinal direction. Action. Taste.
The effect of the heavenly stem on you differs from the effect of the earthly branch. The heavenly stem primarily affects the soul of a person. The earthly branch - the body. And in you, everything is collected in a heap. Do you know why there is a division into stems and branches? Because there are 10 stems, and 20 branches. Everything is logical and systematic. Everything that I wrote refers to the Daoist BaZi.

You have the spelling of the first versions of hieroglyphs. But you do not focus on them. And all the answers are in them. And in the spelling. And in the meaning.

[zimon]

Hello Fan of the spirits, I am not Chinese and not even a sinologist, but I like to investigate words, their etymology, the etymology is the seed of the word or in this case of the ideogram. Why did the ancients give those meanings to material and immaterial things? Mine is just a research in this sense. I was surprised for example that Jia has the meaning of armor, in traditional Chinese medicine, the wood element corresponds to the functions of the liver which is called the Army General. It is its energy. Isn't it beautiful? I also did the translations of the names of the twelve terrestrial branches....

[Spiritsfan]

Hi @zimon. I'm not Chinese either. Let's take Yang Wood. It's a cross. Or is it just me who sees that it's a cross? Can't you see a cross in the very first writing of this hieroglyph? The most ancient one? How did you conclude from the cross that these are seeds or armor? A cracked seed? If you substitute Ancient hieroglyphs into the first pair of Jia Zi. You can clearly see a baby under a star. Look for the hieroglyph Zi here https://hanziyuan.net. Remaking a cross from a star into a cracked seed - my respects. Read up on what ZWDS is and what star the earth's axis is always oriented to. The liver corresponds to Yang Wood according to 五行 Wu Xing. Which also relates to BaZi more than to what is now called Chinese medicine (which does not exist). According to official data, there are currently 54,000 people over 100 years old in China. With a population of 1 billion 400 million. In the United States, there are 50 thousand people over 100. With a population of 400 million. Draw your own conclusions. The same is true for the other hieroglyphs. Or if you are one of those who stubbornly call the hieroglyph ox 牛 a horse? Despite the fact that Lao Tzu rode a bull. As a symbol of closeness to the sun. Because the summer solstice occurs in the month of the bull, and noon at the hour of the bull. And there are many ancient statues of humanoids with horns. Considered the Main Gods. The same Zeus and Jupiter with horns. You need to collect more information on this topic. And not copy information from modern dictionaries. Look in dictionaries that have outdated meanings of these hieroglyphs. Many amazing discoveries await you. More relevant to your pictures of the history of hieroglyphs. I read in your post that the meaning of the hieroglyph Bin 丙 has been lost. Lost by whom? Have the triumphal arches, 牌楼 or the Japanese Torii gates disappeared somewhere? The gates through which the Gods pass into the world of people - someone has lost them. Well, because these people are far from the topic they are considering. Or someone is deliberately hiding the meaning from you. Or you from yourself .

[Spiritsfan]

Add.

The hieroglyphs you are trying to use to explain the BaZi Gods were adopted in 1956 in China. You are not even using Taiwanese ones. Otherwise, you would have written about it. But they still do not correspond to BaZi, which is 2,000 years old or more. Officially. There were other hieroglyphs back then. And they had other meanings. Just turn on your logical thinking first. Please. I would be interested in reading an article about what they mean. And you are simply repeating nonsense written for less educated people. And it would be even more pleasant if you paid attention to the modern spelling of the Bing hieroglyph. If the hieroglyph for Ox simply changed its meaning, which everyone mindlessly repeats, on a horse. Then the modern hieroglyph for Bing 丙 consists of the old Bing Divine Gate and the old hieroglyph for God 天. Which is now called Heaven. And the Gods cannot pass through the gate. People do not hear the will of the Gods.

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see my AI reply ===>The information you've compiled covers a broad range of historical, linguistic, and cultural sources, and it appears to be generally correct. Here are some key insights and additions for each stem:

1. **甲 (Jia)**: The historical image of a germinating seed and a cracked shell aligns with its depiction as the first stem, symbolizing initiation and growth. The association with armor connects with Jia’s early connotations of protection and the start of cycles.

2. **乙 (Yi)**: Yi’s twisting growth aligns with its second position, representing the flexible and gradual unfolding of life. Yi’s association with fish intestines is ancient but reflects its curved form, symbolizing gradual development and resilience.

3. **丙 (Bing)**: The references to “shoulders” and “the handle” reflect stability and support. Bing is associated with fire, light, and brightness, essential for growth, and serves as the third stem representing warmth, clarity, and direction.

4. **丁 (Ding)**: Traditionally associated with the image of a nail, indicating strength and endurance. It is symbolically connected to completeness and stability. The various interpretations, such as a city wall or uprightness, reinforce Ding's significance as a stable foundation.

5. **戊 (Wu)**: Characterized by its image of a spear, representing firmness and strength. Wu's elemental association with Earth aligns with the concept of stability and centrality, supporting growth.

6. **己 (Ji)**: Ji is related to the self, symbolizing introspection and personal growth. The connection to a loom thread suggests interconnectedness, while Ji represents nurturance, shelter, and forming one’s inner character.

7. **庚 (Geng)**: Symbolizes a transitional state, associated with change and the arrival of autumn. The pictogram of a shield implies protection and defense, embodying the gathering of resources and fortitude for the next stage.

8. **辛 (Xin)**: Known for its connection to pungency and bitterness, often associated with challenges and discipline. Xin represents completion and refinement, like autumn, when harvests are gathered, embodying strength and resilience.

9. **壬 (Ren)**: Represents water, emphasizing flow, adaptability, and carrying burdens. Its depiction as a person bearing weight reflects resilience and the ability to support and nurture.

10. **癸 (Gui)**: Closely associated with water in its passive, cold, or dormant state. As the last of the stems, Gui represents closure, gestation, and transformation. It also has connotations of mystery and hidden depths, given its association with the end of cycles.

Overall, your interpretations are thorough and well-supported. Each stem’s associations reflect a blend of natural imagery, historical interpretations, and character traits from ancient Chinese cosmology and philosophy.

[zimon]

Thank you Spirit Fan, I will reflect on your indications. However, the Shuowen Jiezi formed by 540 radicals is the basis of the classification of over 9000 characters, completed around 100 AD, in the Han era. The Shuowen radicals can be considered the ancestors of the 214 Kangxi radicals, this one written in the eighteenth century. The other dictionaries I have referred to show the semantic evolution. TRADITIONAL Chinese medicine exists, I practice it 

Thank you very much smsek for your contribution. (That Jia, in addition to generating and sprouting, protects its initial growth is moving)
I would also like to show you the etymologies and meanings found for the names of the twelve terrestrial branches, in this case there are some really bizarre ones. What do you think?
 Then there is a question; Each character in its phonetics, pronunciation, has several homophones, in some cases more than eighty. We know that knowledge has often been transmitted orally, this may lead us to think that even research on homophones could lead to interesting discoveries.
I give the example of the Li Dui acupuncture point, the last one on the meridian of the Stomach, n.45.
Its name means "rigorous exchange" but it has as homophones the attributes of Calendar and Team, which offer us notions of Space and Time. The Square that is depicted by the ancient engravers in the left hand of Fou Hi, the first ruler and shaman, evokes the Royal Work in its entirety, since it produces the square that produces the earth and the sky, the square and the circle.
Anyway here are the etymologies of the twelve terrestrial branches, unfortunately I can't put the images within the paragraphs, I'll try to send them later in another post. I haven't listed the dictionary sources here, but they are the same ones used for the stems.

ZI 子 An infant with tied legs. Seed- child- child- egg. Resembling, hand stripping a branch, supporting, supporting, dispensing, paying, word of measure for a stick-shaped object. Preceded by 輩 bei , it means wheel of a cart, line of life, next life, generation. It is used to mark the month, i.e. the eleventh day of the lunar calendar.

CHOU 丑 Hands tied. Wire binding. Ugly- scandalous- clown- crazy. Pictogram: The inscriptions on the oracle bones are like claws. Demons are ugly. Etymology: twisted thread, together, but also to divide. The ancient variant of 丑 is 醜 demon, spirit, steam, alcohol. Used to mark the twelfth month of the lunar calendar.

YIN 寅 Roof that covers a person with their hands down. From the ground the form. Respect, reverence, vigilance. The dictionary of
radical the Shuowen Jiezi also indicates the patella, part of the knee: Patella. In the first month the Yang Qi moves, goes to the underworld, wants to rise, but the Yin is still strong, the elephant does not reach and the patellar Yin is down.: The meaning of patella repulsion is that a person's yang energy comes out abruptly and rises up to the barrier, then repels it.
Refers to the first month of the lunar calendar

MAO 卯 Open door. Double-leaf door. Gate. Door of spring.
Tenon and mortise in carpentry. Etymology: door leaf. "Annotation from the Shuowen Jiezi": Risk. In February, everything emerges from the earth. How to open a door. Therefore, February is the Gate of Heaven. All of Mao's possessions come from Mao. The
word is like opening the door. Don't overeat. E 戼 is the
gate of spring, and 丣 is the gate of autumn especially for 㬎 xian, which means to make visible, to reveal. This last passage is enigmatic

CHEN 辰 Mirage. Sprouting, sprouting plants like daggers that follow the stars above. Etymology: the strength of a seed
sprouting, a person walking around, or more anciently "two people next to each other", a dwelling on the cliff. To have a body. Chen is the mirage of all things. Morning. Morning constellation. 北辰 Bei Chen- North Star. Governing with virtue is
like Beichen, who lives in his place and is shared by all the stars. "The Dialogues of Confucius· For politics"It refers to an emperor or a respected person. "Yang Qi moves and electricity vibrates, it's time for farmers. In the third month of the month, the Yang Qi is established, and the wood grows and penetrates the ground, then it is followed by the dagger. Doubt is also like the emergence of things. Xu Kai said: "The sound of the dagger has changed. The bark of the wood has only just begun to appear." Third month of the lunar calendar
tag. YES 巳 Glyph of the oracle bone, like a baby growing in a fetal bursa. Original meaning: A baby growing in a fetal bursa. Himself. Yang Qi was born in the baby and eventually passed. "Si" means "Fine Si", which is like the form of Yang Qi that returns to its extreme, so it is also called "Fine Si". Fourth lunar calendar month.

SI 巳 Oracle bone glyph, like a baby growing in a fetal bag. Original meaning: a baby growing in a fetal bag. Self. Yang Qi is born in the baby and eventually passed away. "Si" means "End Si", which is like the shape of Yang Qi returning to its extreme, so it is also called "End Si". Fourth lunar calendar month.

WU午The word "wu" in inscriptions on oracle bones is probably in the shape of a rope, probably the bridle of a horse. Basic meaning: noon. When the vertical
and the horizontal intersect, midday heat. "One vertical and one horizontal mean noon." In May, Yin Qi meets Yang at noon. Emerging from the ground. At noon, yin and yang meet. Therefore, it is called noon. Fifth lunar calendar month.

WEI 未 Contains the root of the "wood" tree. Fundamental meaning: not, not yet, unfinished, not yet prosperous.
It can also mean, taste. Taste, Wei, taste the taste of June. In the five elements, wood is older than ever, like wood with heavy branches and leaves. By June, hundreds of fruits are already tasting and the five elements of wood are still old. Sixth month.

SHEN 申Pictogram: electricity. Contains the field radical. Original meaning: hold the body, body belt. Shen
it means to bind the body. Also extend, declare, report to a superior, debate. Self-control. Bring to justice. 7th month.

YOU 酉 Radical: unitary. Pictogram: The shape of the characters is like the shape of a wine vase. Original meaning: wine,
liqueur. When millet is grown in August, it can be made into a good wine.
The moon in mid-autumn sways and points towards the unified sky. Mao is the door to spring and everything has come out. You are the gateway to autumn and all things have come in. Eighth month.

XU 戌 To leave the mark of a bar. Kill. Wound. Unknown weapon or spear or knife. Indicates large blade. Destroy. At
September the Yang Qi is weak, all things are completed and the Yang falls into the earth. Five Elements: Earth is born in Wu and blooms in Xu. It contains one of Wu. Ninth month.

HAI亥 Pictogram. The shape of the oracular bone characters is similar to the way of writing "豕", pig. In ancient times, it was easy to spell "Hai 亥" and "豕" interchangeably. The language:
"鲁鱼海豕" talks about this phenomenon of writing errors.
In the radicals of the character we recognize "two people who are above, above, and sprouting seeds". "Hai has two heads and six bodies" "In the word "Hai," two people are drawn on top and three people are in the body, so it is calculated as six." (?) The potential balance of things. In October, the light sun rises, followed by the strong yin.

[smsek]

see my AI reply===>Your friend’s deep dive into the Twelve Terrestrial Branches highlights some fascinating interpretations, and they are largely consistent with historical etymology and symbolism. I'll go through his main points with some comments and additional insights:

1. **Homophones and Oral Tradition**: His observation about homophones is spot on. The richness of homophones in Chinese often leads to layered meanings that can carry symbolic or cultural weight. Researching these homophones can certainly yield insights into ancient beliefs, associations, and even medical practices, as he mentioned with the Li Dui acupuncture point. The suggestion of connections between "rigorous exchange" and concepts of space and time aligns with traditional cosmological ideas, where the Square (地 Earth) and Circle (天 Heaven) represented spatial and temporal balance. This interplay is central to understanding how ancient Chinese culture connected different realms of existence, such as the physiological and the cosmological.

2. **Terrestrial Branch Etymologies**:
   - **子 (Zi)**: The character depicting an infant with tied legs or a seed emphasizes the start of life, potential, and continuity (generation). This root meaning of initiation is appropriate as Zi is the first branch and often symbolizes the origin of a cycle.

   - **丑 (Chou)**: His interpretation of “ugly” and “demon” for Chou resonates with traditional associations of this branch with winter, where life is dormant, appearing lifeless or “ugly” in seasonal terms. The twisted nature of the character aligns well with the idea of something contained or bound, representing both rest and the tension before renewal.

   - **寅 (Yin)**: The emphasis on reverence, vigilance, and the patella is interesting. Yin is associated with movement (as he noted) and the start of spring, representing a time of emergence. The connection with the knee, a joint central to mobility, metaphorically aligns with the sprouting of plants pushing through the soil.

   - **卯 (Mao)**: As he points out, Mao signifies an “open door,” representing spring’s entryway. This openness aligns with the unlocking of potential in nature, symbolized by sprouting and renewal. In carpentry, mortise and tenon joints, which are essential for building stability, represent the way elements come together, just as spring brings life into balance.

   - **辰 (Chen)**: His depiction of Chen as a “mirage” and the sprouting of life is apt. The connection to the North Star (北辰) is symbolic, as Chen represents a stable pivot (an axis) much like the North Star. The association with “morning” and the emergence of light further underscores Chen as a symbol of direction and growth.

   - **巳 (Si)**: The fetal imagery aligns with the transitional energy of Yang reaching its fullest and beginning to recede. This “culmination” energy is a good description for Si’s role in the cycle, as it moves from rising Yang to its decline.

   - **午 (Wu)**: The noon aspect of Wu, where Yin and Yang meet, is a profound observation. Wu represents equilibrium and balance at the peak of growth, which is mirrored in the noon heat of summer when both forces are at a standstill before transitioning.

   - **未 (Wei)**: His interpretation of Wei as “not yet” or “incomplete” captures the lingering presence of growth energy (the taste of maturity), as the life force begins to shift toward decline.

   - **申 (Shen)**: Shen as “electricity” or self-control links well with the idea of gathering energy and consolidating it for self-reliance and personal accountability. This imagery suits late summer’s gathering phase, as life energies begin to contract inward.

   - **酉 (You)**: As he notes, You represents the containment and transformation of grains (and therefore life force) into wine, encapsulating autumn’s harvest. You’s role as a gateway aligns with fall, as it signifies the end of the growing season.

   - **戌 (Xu)**: His explanation of Xu as a large blade and the association with “completion” is fitting. Xu signifies the cutting away of what has been completed, aligning with the fall harvest and the symbolic ‘death’ of the year’s life cycle.

   - **亥 (Hai)**: His description of Hai as a pig and the concept of two people in balance captures the dormant or latent nature of winter. The homophone with “豕” (pig) and the symbolism of seeds waiting underground suggest potential energy that will be released as the cycle restarts.

Your friend's inquiry into the interplay of homophones, especially in such a multifaceted context, is quite enlightening. His interpretations underscore the symbolic and literal interconnections across language, nature, and cosmology in traditional Chinese thought. These branches are indeed complex, and each holds layers that align with seasonal, agricultural, and metaphysical cycles central to classical Chinese philosophy and medicine.

[zimon]

Oh my god, I just realized it's a software that responds. Is it chatgpt? But you're human ?

[Spiritsfan]

Guys. Here is a screenshot of the dictionary. Why do you call a bull a horse? I also attach the horse hieroglyph. Even in the ancient image.

[Spiritsfan]

马

This is a horse. Below is a screenshot of its bronze version. Why am I the only one who can see this?

[zimon]

But in fact WU does not mean horse...did you read?
WU午The word "wu" in inscriptions on oracle bones is probably in the shape of a rope, probably the bridle of a horse. Basic meaning: noon. When the vertical
and the horizontal intersect, midday heat. "One vertical and one horizontal mean noon." In May, Yin Qi meets Yang at noon. Emerging from the ground. At noon, yin and yang meet. Therefore, it is called noon. Fifth lunar calendar month.
It means noon   

Also ZI does not means mouse, mouse is老鼠

[Spiritsfan]

But in fact WU does not mean horse...did you read?
WU午The word "wu" in inscriptions on oracle bones is probably in the shape of a rope, probably the bridle of a horse. Basic meaning: noon. When the vertical
and the horizontal intersect, midday heat. "One vertical and one horizontal mean noon." In May, Yin Qi meets Yang at noon. Emerging from the ground. At noon, yin and yang meet. Therefore, it is called noon. Fifth lunar calendar month.
It means noon   

Also ZI does not means mouse, mouse is老鼠

Bronze version. Because it is the most authentic.
I see an airplane. Or a bull with horns, top view. With large horns to the sides. How can you see a rope or harness in this? Can you give an example of which hieroglyph you took this description from?

I added all the variants. The bull is on top. The Oracle variant is not informative at all. I suspect that there is another hieroglyph there.

I also don't see the horizontal. Now I'll look for the noon inglyph. Noon - 中午.

[zimon]

(1) (pictographic. Original meaning: horse rope)

(2) Same as original meaning [rope that used to manage horse]

[The oracle bone script for "午" ] is probably in the shape of a rope, probably a bridle for taming a horse. ——Guo Moruo, "A Study of Oracle Bone Scripts" https://zd.hwxnet.com/search.do?keyword=%E5%8D%88&sub_btn.x=39&sub_btn.y=15
https://www.zdic.net/hans/%E5%8D%88

Here instead it says that the pictogram represents a pestle and then indicates midday flanked by another character https://www.zhongwen.com/bushou.htm