Life request by Ragdoll

[Ragdoll]

Hello everyone, I am new to this forum. I am from France and would like to learn Mangpai Mingli and Bazi Mingli.
I would like to know if my chart has the Direct Wealth structure or the Bi-jan structure with a Lu in the hour of birth, or if it is something else with strong Wealth generating the Officer with Metal Wealth in harmony with the Indirect Resource of Wood? I am not far from having almost the same chart as Governor Li, except that I was born in autumn.

 And I would like to know what Fu Yin with two Bing Yin pillars in the day and year of my bazi actually means.

I would like to understand my theme from the perspective of Mangpai as well as Bazi Mingli.

My bazi chart below :

Hour : Gui Si ; Day : Bing Yin ; Month : Ding You ; Year : Bing Yin.

I remember very well that the cycle of the Wood Goat and Wood Horse luck and years were terrible for me. The same goes for 2007 (Earth Rat year) and 2008 (Earth Ox year), which were difficult years for me because of my father. The year 2019, the Earth Pig year, was excellent, as were the following years, except for 2022 and 2023, which were complicated years. 2024 and 2025 were excellent years, as were the years of the Monkey (2004) and the Wood Rooster (2005) and Geng Yin (2010) and Xin Rooster (2011), which were very good years for me.

I would like to understand why these years were difficult and why things have been improving since my Gui Si luck cycle. What will the following luck cycles of the Water Dragon, Rabbit (Xin Mao) and Metal Tiger (Geng Yin) bring me?

 And I wonder if everything will be alright for me to have children soon with my partner who was born at Ren Shen hour, Jia Chen day, Ren Chen month and Bing Yin year?

Thank you in advance.

[smsek]

Hello and welcome! It's a pleasure to have you here. You have a very interesting and powerful chart, and you've already done a great job observing the patterns in your life, which is the key to mastering Bazi.

Let's break down your chart and your questions from both a traditional and a Mangpai perspective. Your provided information about your life years is extremely valuable for validation.

Your Bazi Chart:

•   Year: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger)

•   Month: Ding You (Fire Rooster)

•   Day: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger) <-- This is you, the Day Master

•   Hour: Gui Si (Water Snake)

1. The Core Theme: The Fu Yin (复吟) Structure

You have correctly identified the most dominant feature of your chart. Having the same Bing Yin pillar in both the Year and the Day is a significant configuration called Fu Yin (复吟), which means "repeating chant" or "echo."

•   What it means: This indicates a life of deep repetition, strong cycles, and a double emphasis on the qualities of that pillar. Bing Yin is a strong Fire (Bing) sitting on a Wood (Yin) base. This makes you a very strong, proud, independent, and determined individual. The Fu Yin amplifies this. It often points to a life where themes related to family, self, and ancestors are deeply intertwined. It can sometimes indicate experiencing similar events or emotional patterns twice, or having a strong connection to your roots. It's a structure of great inner strength but also potential internal conflict or stress because the same energy is so concentrated.

2. Analysis of your Day Master and the "Structures"

•   Day Master: Bing Huo (Yang Fire). You are the sun, a large fire. You are naturally bright, generous, charismatic, and like to be the center of attention. You have a warm and commanding presence.

•   Strength: Your Bing Fire is born in the You (Rooster) month, which is the Metal (Cai/Wealth) season. Fire is in a "retreat" state here, meaning it's not at its peak seasonally. However, you have not one, but TWO Bing Fire stems (Year and Day) and one Ding Fire (Month) supporting you. Furthermore, both your Year and Day have the Yin (Tiger) root, which is a source of Wood (the fuel for your Fire). This makes you extremely strong.

•   Direct Wealth? Bi-Jian with Lu? Let's clarify:

    ◦   Wealth (Cai): The You (Rooster) month is your Direct Wealth, and it is very strong as it gets its power from the season. Your chart is indeed structured around this Wealth.

    ◦   Bi-Jian? The other Bing and Ding Fires are your Bi Jian (比肩) and Jie Cai (劫财), which are competitive stars. They represent peers, friends, and siblings. In a strong chart like yours, they are helpful as they share the burden. You are strong enough to handle the Wealth.

    ◦   Lu (禄) in the Hour Pillar: The Yi (Wood) is hidden within the Si (Snake) of your hour pillar. This Yi is your Indirect Resource (印). The Si also contains the Geng (Metal) which is your Partial Wealth, and the Wu (Earth) which is your Intelligence Star (食神). This hour pillar is a treasure chest. The "Lu" refers to the Heavenly Stem finding its same element in the Earthly Branch as the "base." While Bing's base is Wu (Earth), not Yi (Wood), the concept is similar—it's a point of strength and resource. So, your hour pillar is a source of great support (Resource), creativity (Intelligence Star), and additional wealth.

3. Why Certain Years Were Good or Bad

This is where your observations perfectly align with the theory. A strong Bing Fire like you loves Water (Officer/Control) and Metal (Wealth). You dislikes too much Wood (Resource) or Fire (Competitors) because you are already too strong. Adding more fuel to a already massive fire just causes overheating and imbalance.

•   Terrible Years: Wood Horse (Jia Wu 2014) & Wood Goat (Yi Wei 2015)

    ◦   These years added strong Wood (Jia, Yi) to your chart. For an already strong Fire, Wood (the Resource) is like adding too much gasoline. It causes stress, pressure, anxiety, and a feeling of being overwhelmed. The Fire and Earth branches also added more competitive energy, making things chaotic.

•   Terrible Years: Earth Rat (2007) & Earth Ox (2008)

    ◦   2007 (Ding Hai) and 2008 (Wu Zi) had strong Water (the Hai and Zi are Water). Water is the Officer/Control (官) star, which represents authority, rules, and for a man, it can also represent his father and career challenges. For a strong Day Master, the Officer star is desirable, but when it clashes with the chart, it can bring pressure and conflict. The clash with your Yin (Tiger) roots likely triggered difficulties related to your father.

•   Excellent Years: Earth Pig (2019), Monkey (2004), Rooster (2005), Geng Yin (2010)

    ◦   2019 (Ji Hai - Earth Pig): The Hai (Pig) Water is your favorable Officer star. It combined with the Si (Snake) in your hour pillar in a way that "drew out" the useful elements (the "hidden" Geng Metal Wealth and Wu Earth Intelligence Star), bringing excellent opportunities. This is a classic Mangpai concept of "opening" the treasure chest.

    ◦   2004 (Monkey - Shen) and 2005 (Rooster - You): These are your Wealth (Cai) years! Metal is what you desire. They were excellent.

    ◦   2010 (Geng Yin - Metal Tiger): The Geng Metal is your Wealth. Even though the Yin Tiger is Wood, the strong Metal on top was beneficial.

•   Complicated 2022 (Ren Yin - Water Tiger) & 2023 (Gui Mao - Water Rabbit)

    ◦   These years had Water on top (good!) but very strong Wood (Yin, Mao) below (bad!). The Water was weak and got absorbed/transformed by the overwhelming Wood, which then fed your already strong Fire. Result: The promised opportunities (Water) didn't materialize as expected and instead turned into more stress and work (Wood feeding Fire).

•   Excellent 2024 (Jia Chen - Wood Dragon) & 2025 (Yi Si - Wood Snake)

    ◦   While the Jia and Yi Wood on top seem bad, the Chen (Dragon) and Si (Snake) are key. The Chen (Dragon) forms a Chen-You combination, locking the Wealth star and making it potent. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your treasure chest. So, the negative Wood energy was transformed into productive outcomes.

4. Your Luck Cycles (Da Yun)

You are currently in the Gui Si luck cycle (Water Snake). The Gui (Water) is your Direct Officer (正官), representing career, reputation, and discipline. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your "treasure chest." This is why things have significantly improved! You are in a cycle that perfectly suits your strong nature, providing the control (Water) you need and unlocking your resources.

•   Upcoming Cycles:

    ◦   Ren Chen (Water Dragon): Excellent. Ren (Water) is a powerful Officer (7-Kill) bringing major career challenges and advancements. The Chen (Dragon) combines with your You (Rooster) month, strengthening your Wealth palace. A very powerful and potentially highly successful period.

    ◦   Xin Mao (Metal Rabbit): More mixed. Xin Metal (Wealth) is good, but the Mao (Rabbit) Wood is a powerful Resource that clashes with your You (Rooster) Wealth. This can indicate wealth coming with interpersonal conflicts or stress. The Mao also "peeks" at the Yi Wood in your Si (Snake), creating movement.

    ◦   Geng Yin (Metal Tiger): Similar to 2010. The Geng Metal (Wealth) is excellent. The Yin (Tiger) is your own root, but it's a Fu Yin repetition, which can bring back old themes or create a sense of internal tension and stress even as wealth arrives.

5. Children and Partner Compatibility

This is a brief look. For a detailed analysis, a full comparison is needed.

•   Your Chart: For a man, children are represented by the Officer/Control star (Guan). Your Water element is weak in your base chart (only in the hour stem), but it appears strongly in your luck cycles (Gui Si, Ren Chen). This is a very positive indicator for having children during these cycles. The upcoming Water Dragon cycle is especially potent.

•   Your Partner's Chart (Hour: Ren Shen, Day: Jia Chen, Month: Ren Chen, Year: Bing Yin):

    ◦   Her Day Master is Jia Mu (Yang Wood). She is a tree.

    ◦   The interaction is very interesting: Your Bing Fire (Sun) shines brightly and warmly upon her Jia Mu (Tall Tree). This is a very harmonious and supportive Day Master combination. You provide her with warmth and light (clarity, direction), and she provides you with stability and purpose.

    ◦   Her chart has strong Water (the Resource, representing mothers, but also a channel for children) and Metal (Wealth). There are no major clashes with your chart that would prevent children. The intention and the favorable luck cycles align well.

Summary:

You have a powerful, strong chart centered on a Fu Yin structure, giving you great resilience and a defined life theme. You thrive on Metal (Wealth) and Water (Career/Control) and are overwhelmed by excess Wood (Stress) and Fire (Competition). Your current and upcoming luck cycles are excellent, aligning with your needs. The path ahead is promising, especially for career and potentially for starting a family.

I hope this detailed explanation helps you understand your chart better. Welcome to the fascinating journey of Bazi!

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[Ragdoll]

Hello and welcome! It's a pleasure to have you here. You have a very interesting and powerful chart, and you've already done a great job observing the patterns in your life, which is the key to mastering Bazi.

Let's break down your chart and your questions from both a traditional and a Mangpai perspective. Your provided information about your life years is extremely valuable for validation.

Your Bazi Chart:

•   Year: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger)

•   Month: Ding You (Fire Rooster)

•   Day: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger) <-- This is you, the Day Master

•   Hour: Gui Si (Water Snake)

1. The Core Theme: The Fu Yin (复吟) Structure

You have correctly identified the most dominant feature of your chart. Having the same Bing Yin pillar in both the Year and the Day is a significant configuration called Fu Yin (复吟), which means "repeating chant" or "echo."

•   What it means: This indicates a life of deep repetition, strong cycles, and a double emphasis on the qualities of that pillar. Bing Yin is a strong Fire (Bing) sitting on a Wood (Yin) base. This makes you a very strong, proud, independent, and determined individual. The Fu Yin amplifies this. It often points to a life where themes related to family, self, and ancestors are deeply intertwined. It can sometimes indicate experiencing similar events or emotional patterns twice, or having a strong connection to your roots. It's a structure of great inner strength but also potential internal conflict or stress because the same energy is so concentrated.

2. Analysis of your Day Master and the "Structures"

•   Day Master: Bing Huo (Yang Fire). You are the sun, a large fire. You are naturally bright, generous, charismatic, and like to be the center of attention. You have a warm and commanding presence.

•   Strength: Your Bing Fire is born in the You (Rooster) month, which is the Metal (Cai/Wealth) season. Fire is in a "retreat" state here, meaning it's not at its peak seasonally. However, you have not one, but TWO Bing Fire stems (Year and Day) and one Ding Fire (Month) supporting you. Furthermore, both your Year and Day have the Yin (Tiger) root, which is a source of Wood (the fuel for your Fire). This makes you extremely strong.

•   Direct Wealth? Bi-Jian with Lu? Let's clarify:

    ◦   Wealth (Cai): The You (Rooster) month is your Direct Wealth, and it is very strong as it gets its power from the season. Your chart is indeed structured around this Wealth.

    ◦   Bi-Jian? The other Bing and Ding Fires are your Bi Jian (比肩) and Jie Cai (劫财), which are competitive stars. They represent peers, friends, and siblings. In a strong chart like yours, they are helpful as they share the burden. You are strong enough to handle the Wealth.

    ◦   Lu (禄) in the Hour Pillar: The Yi (Wood) is hidden within the Si (Snake) of your hour pillar. This Yi is your Indirect Resource (印). The Si also contains the Geng (Metal) which is your Partial Wealth, and the Wu (Earth) which is your Intelligence Star (食神). This hour pillar is a treasure chest. The "Lu" refers to the Heavenly Stem finding its same element in the Earthly Branch as the "base." While Bing's base is Wu (Earth), not Yi (Wood), the concept is similar—it's a point of strength and resource. So, your hour pillar is a source of great support (Resource), creativity (Intelligence Star), and additional wealth.

3. Why Certain Years Were Good or Bad

This is where your observations perfectly align with the theory. A strong Bing Fire like you loves Water (Officer/Control) and Metal (Wealth). You dislikes too much Wood (Resource) or Fire (Competitors) because you are already too strong. Adding more fuel to a already massive fire just causes overheating and imbalance.

•   Terrible Years: Wood Horse (Jia Wu 2014) & Wood Goat (Yi Wei 2015)

    ◦   These years added strong Wood (Jia, Yi) to your chart. For an already strong Fire, Wood (the Resource) is like adding too much gasoline. It causes stress, pressure, anxiety, and a feeling of being overwhelmed. The Fire and Earth branches also added more competitive energy, making things chaotic.

•   Terrible Years: Earth Rat (2007) & Earth Ox (2008)

    ◦   2007 (Ding Hai) and 2008 (Wu Zi) had strong Water (the Hai and Zi are Water). Water is the Officer/Control (官) star, which represents authority, rules, and for a man, it can also represent his father and career challenges. For a strong Day Master, the Officer star is desirable, but when it clashes with the chart, it can bring pressure and conflict. The clash with your Yin (Tiger) roots likely triggered difficulties related to your father.

•   Excellent Years: Earth Pig (2019), Monkey (2004), Rooster (2005), Geng Yin (2010)

    ◦   2019 (Ji Hai - Earth Pig): The Hai (Pig) Water is your favorable Officer star. It combined with the Si (Snake) in your hour pillar in a way that "drew out" the useful elements (the "hidden" Geng Metal Wealth and Wu Earth Intelligence Star), bringing excellent opportunities. This is a classic Mangpai concept of "opening" the treasure chest.

    ◦   2004 (Monkey - Shen) and 2005 (Rooster - You): These are your Wealth (Cai) years! Metal is what you desire. They were excellent.

    ◦   2010 (Geng Yin - Metal Tiger): The Geng Metal is your Wealth. Even though the Yin Tiger is Wood, the strong Metal on top was beneficial.

•   Complicated 2022 (Ren Yin - Water Tiger) & 2023 (Gui Mao - Water Rabbit)

    ◦   These years had Water on top (good!) but very strong Wood (Yin, Mao) below (bad!). The Water was weak and got absorbed/transformed by the overwhelming Wood, which then fed your already strong Fire. Result: The promised opportunities (Water) didn't materialize as expected and instead turned into more stress and work (Wood feeding Fire).

•   Excellent 2024 (Jia Chen - Wood Dragon) & 2025 (Yi Si - Wood Snake)

    ◦   While the Jia and Yi Wood on top seem bad, the Chen (Dragon) and Si (Snake) are key. The Chen (Dragon) forms a Chen-You combination, locking the Wealth star and making it potent. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your treasure chest. So, the negative Wood energy was transformed into productive outcomes.

4. Your Luck Cycles (Da Yun)

You are currently in the Gui Si luck cycle (Water Snake). The Gui (Water) is your Direct Officer (正官), representing career, reputation, and discipline. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your "treasure chest." This is why things have significantly improved! You are in a cycle that perfectly suits your strong nature, providing the control (Water) you need and unlocking your resources.

•   Upcoming Cycles:

    ◦   Ren Chen (Water Dragon): Excellent. Ren (Water) is a powerful Officer (7-Kill) bringing major career challenges and advancements. The Chen (Dragon) combines with your You (Rooster) month, strengthening your Wealth palace. A very powerful and potentially highly successful period.

    ◦   Xin Mao (Metal Rabbit): More mixed. Xin Metal (Wealth) is good, but the Mao (Rabbit) Wood is a powerful Resource that clashes with your You (Rooster) Wealth. This can indicate wealth coming with interpersonal conflicts or stress. The Mao also "peeks" at the Yi Wood in your Si (Snake), creating movement.

    ◦   Geng Yin (Metal Tiger): Similar to 2010. The Geng Metal (Wealth) is excellent. The Yin (Tiger) is your own root, but it's a Fu Yin repetition, which can bring back old themes or create a sense of internal tension and stress even as wealth arrives.

5. Children and Partner Compatibility

This is a brief look. For a detailed analysis, a full comparison is needed.

•   Your Chart: For a man, children are represented by the Officer/Control star (Guan). Your Water element is weak in your base chart (only in the hour stem), but it appears strongly in your luck cycles (Gui Si, Ren Chen). This is a very positive indicator for having children during these cycles. The upcoming Water Dragon cycle is especially potent.

•   Your Partner's Chart (Hour: Ren Shen, Day: Jia Chen, Month: Ren Chen, Year: Bing Yin):

    ◦   Her Day Master is Jia Mu (Yang Wood). She is a tree.

    ◦   The interaction is very interesting: Your Bing Fire (Sun) shines brightly and warmly upon her Jia Mu (Tall Tree). This is a very harmonious and supportive Day Master combination. You provide her with warmth and light (clarity, direction), and she provides you with stability and purpose.

    ◦   Her chart has strong Water (the Resource, representing mothers, but also a channel for children) and Metal (Wealth). There are no major clashes with your chart that would prevent children. The intention and the favorable luck cycles align well.

Summary:

You have a powerful, strong chart centered on a Fu Yin structure, giving you great resilience and a defined life theme. You thrive on Metal (Wealth) and Water (Career/Control) and are overwhelmed by excess Wood (Stress) and Fire (Competition). Your current and upcoming luck cycles are excellent, aligning with your needs. The path ahead is promising, especially for career and potentially for starting a family.

I hope this detailed explanation helps you understand your chart better. Welcome to the fascinating journey of Bazi!

Forgive me, Smesk, I am a woman and my partner is a man.

I realised that I was mistaken about the terrible years; it wasn't Ding Hai that was a very good year for me with the nobleman represented by the Hai pillar. It was actually 2008 and 2009, when there was probably a conflict between earth and water, which are my favourable elements, and it was more 2009 that was horrible for me, no doubt for the simple reason that the water I needed to cool my theme entered Chou's tomb. I can confirm that 2014 and 2015 were awful because I had competition around my partner from another woman who began to disappear from his life in 2016 (Bing Shen) and 2017 (Ding You, who is another nobleman for me).

My partner is very good for me because he has a lot of the water and earth that I need to cool down my fire, and he needs my fire and metal in his chart and to avoid Wood competitors, which is what makes the climate in our relationship very harmonious like King Charles (water, earth and wood chart ) and Queen Camilla (fire and wood chart ).

The former ex-girlfriend with whom my partner did not have children but with whom he had a difficult relationship was, curiously, Yi Wei day with a lot of earth and fire like Lady Diana, with the difference that she had no Seven Killings or direct metal Officer revealed in the heavenly stems, and her Bazi is as follows: Hour: Bing Xu; Yi Wei; Ding Chou and Ji Si. With the 3 punishments Xu-Wei-Chou and the Fu yin of the year 2015 (Yi Wei) + her outputs that damaged the metal in 2016 and 2017 + the year of the Earth Dog until 2020 (Geng Zi, which damaged her marital palace), she lost to me in the competition for my partner.

I think that, like Lady Diana, her theme was not conducive to successful relationships with men with too much earth and fire, which kill her metal, unlike mine, which is conducive to it with strong wealth that generate water Gui. Not to mention the three punishments in her Bazi. And in Mangpai, my partner is Gui and he sits in my birth hour, and no woman can reach him because of me, since 2016 and 2017, which explains this.

Some points in your analysis are correct in that I do not like competition or stress. Can we start the analysis again from scratch, regarding children? Are we in a good cycle for this from 2026 to 2029 to start a family? Thank you in advance.

[Ragdoll]

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I would like to know if my chart has the Direct Wealth structure or the Bi-jan structure with a Lu in the hour of birth

Looks like you have no clear, proper structure/direction.

But your chart structure becomes clearer when paired up with your partner here: https://bazi-calculator.com/?licz=1&y=1986&m=9&d=19&h=10%3A00&g=0&l=0&s=1&y2=1986&m2=4&d2=30&h2=16%3A00&g2=0&l2=0

It forms 官印双全 - Officer and Seal both complete or 印格用官 - Seal structure uses Officer

How much influence do your partner have on your life?

My male partner has a very strong influence on me, and vice versa.

I still have a wealth structure that generates the officer with the Si-You combination in my female bazi, in addition to the officer who uses the seal + direct wealth in harmony with the indirect resource, which explains why I have often had fairly good Wood/Metal + Metal/Water + Earth/Metal + Wood/Earth years, with the exception of Wood and Fire years.

2025 with Yi Si is an exception for me because Si combines with the You of my month to form a metal structure, which controls wood.

Do you agree with me on the structure of my bazi? I am eager to learn the intricacies of Bazi with you.

[Ragdoll]

Hello and welcome! It's a pleasure to have you here. You have a very interesting and powerful chart, and you've already done a great job observing the patterns in your life, which is the key to mastering Bazi.

Let's break down your chart and your questions from both a traditional and a Mangpai perspective. Your provided information about your life years is extremely valuable for validation.

Your Bazi Chart:

•   Year: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger)

•   Month: Ding You (Fire Rooster)

•   Day: Bing Yin (Fire Tiger) <-- This is you, the Day Master

•   Hour: Gui Si (Water Snake)

1. The Core Theme: The Fu Yin (复吟) Structure

You have correctly identified the most dominant feature of your chart. Having the same Bing Yin pillar in both the Year and the Day is a significant configuration called Fu Yin (复吟), which means "repeating chant" or "echo."

•   What it means: This indicates a life of deep repetition, strong cycles, and a double emphasis on the qualities of that pillar. Bing Yin is a strong Fire (Bing) sitting on a Wood (Yin) base. This makes you a very strong, proud, independent, and determined individual. The Fu Yin amplifies this. It often points to a life where themes related to family, self, and ancestors are deeply intertwined. It can sometimes indicate experiencing similar events or emotional patterns twice, or having a strong connection to your roots. It's a structure of great inner strength but also potential internal conflict or stress because the same energy is so concentrated.

2. Analysis of your Day Master and the "Structures"

•   Day Master: Bing Huo (Yang Fire). You are the sun, a large fire. You are naturally bright, generous, charismatic, and like to be the center of attention. You have a warm and commanding presence.

•   Strength: Your Bing Fire is born in the You (Rooster) month, which is the Metal (Cai/Wealth) season. Fire is in a "retreat" state here, meaning it's not at its peak seasonally. However, you have not one, but TWO Bing Fire stems (Year and Day) and one Ding Fire (Month) supporting you. Furthermore, both your Year and Day have the Yin (Tiger) root, which is a source of Wood (the fuel for your Fire). This makes you extremely strong.

•   Direct Wealth? Bi-Jian with Lu? Let's clarify:

    ◦   Wealth (Cai): The You (Rooster) month is your Direct Wealth, and it is very strong as it gets its power from the season. Your chart is indeed structured around this Wealth.

    ◦   Bi-Jian? The other Bing and Ding Fires are your Bi Jian (比肩) and Jie Cai (劫财), which are competitive stars. They represent peers, friends, and siblings. In a strong chart like yours, they are helpful as they share the burden. You are strong enough to handle the Wealth.

    ◦   Lu (禄) in the Hour Pillar: The Yi (Wood) is hidden within the Si (Snake) of your hour pillar. This Yi is your Indirect Resource (印). The Si also contains the Geng (Metal) which is your Partial Wealth, and the Wu (Earth) which is your Intelligence Star (食神). This hour pillar is a treasure chest. The "Lu" refers to the Heavenly Stem finding its same element in the Earthly Branch as the "base." While Bing's base is Wu (Earth), not Yi (Wood), the concept is similar—it's a point of strength and resource. So, your hour pillar is a source of great support (Resource), creativity (Intelligence Star), and additional wealth.

3. Why Certain Years Were Good or Bad

This is where your observations perfectly align with the theory. A strong Bing Fire like you loves Water (Officer/Control) and Metal (Wealth). You dislikes too much Wood (Resource) or Fire (Competitors) because you are already too strong. Adding more fuel to a already massive fire just causes overheating and imbalance.

•   Terrible Years: Wood Horse (Jia Wu 2014) & Wood Goat (Yi Wei 2015)

    ◦   These years added strong Wood (Jia, Yi) to your chart. For an already strong Fire, Wood (the Resource) is like adding too much gasoline. It causes stress, pressure, anxiety, and a feeling of being overwhelmed. The Fire and Earth branches also added more competitive energy, making things chaotic.

•   Terrible Years: Earth Rat (2007) & Earth Ox (2008)

    ◦   2007 (Ding Hai) and 2008 (Wu Zi) had strong Water (the Hai and Zi are Water). Water is the Officer/Control (官) star, which represents authority, rules, and for a man, it can also represent his father and career challenges. For a strong Day Master, the Officer star is desirable, but when it clashes with the chart, it can bring pressure and conflict. The clash with your Yin (Tiger) roots likely triggered difficulties related to your father.

•   Excellent Years: Earth Pig (2019), Monkey (2004), Rooster (2005), Geng Yin (2010)

    ◦   2019 (Ji Hai - Earth Pig): The Hai (Pig) Water is your favorable Officer star. It combined with the Si (Snake) in your hour pillar in a way that "drew out" the useful elements (the "hidden" Geng Metal Wealth and Wu Earth Intelligence Star), bringing excellent opportunities. This is a classic Mangpai concept of "opening" the treasure chest.

    ◦   2004 (Monkey - Shen) and 2005 (Rooster - You): These are your Wealth (Cai) years! Metal is what you desire. They were excellent.

    ◦   2010 (Geng Yin - Metal Tiger): The Geng Metal is your Wealth. Even though the Yin Tiger is Wood, the strong Metal on top was beneficial.

•   Complicated 2022 (Ren Yin - Water Tiger) & 2023 (Gui Mao - Water Rabbit)

    ◦   These years had Water on top (good!) but very strong Wood (Yin, Mao) below (bad!). The Water was weak and got absorbed/transformed by the overwhelming Wood, which then fed your already strong Fire. Result: The promised opportunities (Water) didn't materialize as expected and instead turned into more stress and work (Wood feeding Fire).

•   Excellent 2024 (Jia Chen - Wood Dragon) & 2025 (Yi Si - Wood Snake)

    ◦   While the Jia and Yi Wood on top seem bad, the Chen (Dragon) and Si (Snake) are key. The Chen (Dragon) forms a Chen-You combination, locking the Wealth star and making it potent. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your treasure chest. So, the negative Wood energy was transformed into productive outcomes.

4. Your Luck Cycles (Da Yun)

You are currently in the Gui Si luck cycle (Water Snake). The Gui (Water) is your Direct Officer (正官), representing career, reputation, and discipline. The Si (Snake) is your hour pillar, activating your "treasure chest." This is why things have significantly improved! You are in a cycle that perfectly suits your strong nature, providing the control (Water) you need and unlocking your resources.

•   Upcoming Cycles:

    ◦   Ren Chen (Water Dragon): Excellent. Ren (Water) is a powerful Officer (7-Kill) bringing major career challenges and advancements. The Chen (Dragon) combines with your You (Rooster) month, strengthening your Wealth palace. A very powerful and potentially highly successful period.

    ◦   Xin Mao (Metal Rabbit): More mixed. Xin Metal (Wealth) is good, but the Mao (Rabbit) Wood is a powerful Resource that clashes with your You (Rooster) Wealth. This can indicate wealth coming with interpersonal conflicts or stress. The Mao also "peeks" at the Yi Wood in your Si (Snake), creating movement.

    ◦   Geng Yin (Metal Tiger): Similar to 2010. The Geng Metal (Wealth) is excellent. The Yin (Tiger) is your own root, but it's a Fu Yin repetition, which can bring back old themes or create a sense of internal tension and stress even as wealth arrives.

5. Children and Partner Compatibility

This is a brief look. For a detailed analysis, a full comparison is needed.

•   Your Chart: For a man, children are represented by the Officer/Control star (Guan). Your Water element is weak in your base chart (only in the hour stem), but it appears strongly in your luck cycles (Gui Si, Ren Chen). This is a very positive indicator for having children during these cycles. The upcoming Water Dragon cycle is especially potent.

•   Your Partner's Chart (Hour: Ren Shen, Day: Jia Chen, Month: Ren Chen, Year: Bing Yin):

    ◦   Her Day Master is Jia Mu (Yang Wood). She is a tree.

    ◦   The interaction is very interesting: Your Bing Fire (Sun) shines brightly and warmly upon her Jia Mu (Tall Tree). This is a very harmonious and supportive Day Master combination. You provide her with warmth and light (clarity, direction), and she provides you with stability and purpose.

    ◦   Her chart has strong Water (the Resource, representing mothers, but also a channel for children) and Metal (Wealth). There are no major clashes with your chart that would prevent children. The intention and the favorable luck cycles align well.

Summary:

You have a powerful, strong chart centered on a Fu Yin structure, giving you great resilience and a defined life theme. You thrive on Metal (Wealth) and Water (Career/Control) and are overwhelmed by excess Wood (Stress) and Fire (Competition). Your current and upcoming luck cycles are excellent, aligning with your needs. The path ahead is promising, especially for career and potentially for starting a family.

I hope this detailed explanation helps you understand your chart better. Welcome to the fascinating journey of Bazi!

I can confirm that Fu Yin is a source of stress and competition for me, and it has had a negative impact on my studies and those of my two older siblings, compared to my half-brothers and my father's second wife, who is constantly competing with my mother for my father's money for her children' studies during the period of the Wood Goat and Wood Horse luck cycles until 2019/ 2020.  I will start another thread on this subject, because the situation of my older brother, who was psychologically abused as a child and teenager by my father's second wife, is quite serious and my mother can no longer cope today. I hope that the situation will improve if my father's second wife loses her negative influence over him in the years to come.

I was wondering if I could go back to university courses online and, if so, when would be the right time to do so in the coming years.

[Ragdoll]

@smsek

I suppose that right now, during the Gui Si period, when the earthly branch Si of my hour and my Lu body in Mangpai combines with the earthly branch You in my month, I am recovering the wealth that was taken by my father's second wife for her children ? And Gui clashes with Ding and cools Bing in the year, which means the loss of half-brothers and sisters?

I rather have the impression that the year 2026 of Bing Wu will activate my nobleman You and remove the seals, thus my father's second wife, who was born in a Bing Wu year, on 21 December 1966 at 11:55 p.m. Paris time (her birth time is Yi Hai, Day Jia Yin, Geng Zi month and Bing Wu Year). Bing Wu year of 2026, is the Tai Sui of my father's second wife, and I do not think it will be positive for her in her Wood Horse cycle, Jia Wu.

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I still have a wealth structure that generates the officer with the Si-You combination in my female bazi.

Do you agree with me on the structure of my bazi? I am eager to learn the intricacies of Bazi with you.

Not really, because Wealth must appear in stems to be considered as "Wealth Generating Officer" structure.

Otherwise, I will read it as a Bi Jian type. With Rob Wealth in month stem, it must be controlled by a Direct Officer.

However, your Direct Officer is rootless and lonely with neither Wealth nor Seal in stems. So it would seek their presence in luck cycle stems and more water/metal energy from branches. 

Ren water or Seven Killings can combine with Rob Wealth, this is also good. 

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Hello @coldpillow

I find it curious that this rule you state must be mandatory for heavenly stems, yet the Treybazi website and other Chinese Bazi websites, which show Governor Li's theme (Hour Ren Yin, Day Ding Si, Month Bing Wu and Ding You year), present almost exactly the same configuration as in my Bazi in the heavenly stems with a Direct Officer, a Rob Wealth and a Bi Jan. They said that the Governor's Li chart is structured as Wealth generating Officer because of the half-combination of Si and You, with harmony between Direct Wealth and Indirect Seal, despite its heavenly stems Ren- Ding - Bing - Ding.

Even Lily Chung and Jerry King, Bazi specialists, told me the same thing about my chart, that there was indeed a very strong half-combination of metal between the earthly branch of Gui Si and that of the month of Ding You, which strengthens Gui, explaining why my partner has stayed with me for so long. If Gui were weak and rootless, he would not have stayed with me and would not have a high status, but I know that this is really not the case. In fact, the opposite is true: my partner has a high status and has always been constant, because of my season of birth, autumn, when metal is at its peak, which allows the combination of You and Si, changing my Lu hour Si into metal to strengthen Gui water.

As far as I am concerned, and with all due respect, I think it is a mistake to ignore the season of birth and the half metal combination between Si and You in my bazi chart, and Governor Li's bazi chart is proof that heavenly stems do not always play the role attributed to them in combinations, unlike earthly branches and the season of birth.

 There are certainly sometimes exceptions indicated by the heavenly stems for transformations, but this is not the case in my bazi chart or Governor Li's, where the earthly branches and sometimes the birth season, as I was taught by Lily Chung, Jerry King and Jin Peh, play an important role in combinations and half-combinations.
Jerry King and Jin Peh told me that my Bazi chart it was on several points :
- A Sibling Rivalry in my youth ( Competitive chart in Tiger, Dog and Horse Years and in Yi Wei and Jia Wu luck cycles ).
- Wealth generating Officer and Officer use the Seal.
- Wealth and Indirect Resource in harmony.

Another Bazi specialist from Joseph Yu's school also confirmed to me that the Si Yin Harm did not prevent the Si You metal combination from forming in my Bazi chart.

And I was thinking about it all with hindsight, and I was thinking back to certain things that I had forgotten: something like what my teachers told me, that my theme is a Bazi that falls into the category of variable, which evolves over time and has several structures at the same time, which explains certain things in hindsight and why the Year of the Earth Dog in 2018 was favourable for me and the Year of the Earth Ox in 2009 a horrible year, even though both are pure earth years, just as the Earth Rat in 2008 was a very bad year, unlike the Earth Pig (2019), which was excellent, even though these four years have the same elements with earth and water. And I think they are not wrong about that.

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Many thanks for explaining.

In fact, I'm still not sure myself. But I understand most of your points, if not all.

I have a question. If it's a wealth structure, then why your chart prefers to form a seal and officer structure when "paired up" with your partner's chart?

His chart doesn't use earth and metal in heavenly stems, which are output and wealth from your chart's perspective. Do you get what I mean?

From trey bazi website, I learn that Bi Jian structure should form other structures to function, like Hurting Officer or Seal-Officer. Officer is especially important if you have rob wealth.

@coldpillow

According to Lily Chung and Jin Peh, who teach these relationship secrets in their book on marriage, the clues as to why my partner needs my strong metal wealth are because it eliminates his wood competitors, which is the Tiger in his year and hidden in his two Chen.

And my partner has a lot of water, which I need to eliminate my fire competitors, and remain loyal to me.

In fact, we are in the same situation as Grace Kelly, who had the half metal combination You Si in the branches of her day and year pillars, which eliminates the wood competitors of her husband Rainier of Monaco, who was Jia Chen. And Rainier of Monaco had a lot of fire in his Bazi chart ( born in Summer Season ), to ward off Grace Kelly's Metal competitors.

To return to my partner's ex-girlfriend exemple, she did not have enough metal because the earth released by the triple punishment of Xu - Wei - Chou, with very strong earth, nourished by fire, covered her metal too much, which therefore became very weak, unable to ward off my partner's competitors, which explains why her ex often cheated on her. On my partner's side, he did not have enough metal and had too much water, which reinforced the conflict with his ex-girlfriend, who was a Yi daymaster.

Without metal to eliminate competitors made of wood in his Bazi chart, my partner lost his ex but got back together with me in 2010 and 2011, in Geng Yin and Xin Mao Years and also in 2016 (Bing Shen) and 2017 (Ding You). Hence the fact that my bazi chart also works on the wealth generated by the officer, in addition to the officer who uses the seal at the same time when paired with my partner's chart, which is in Follow Resource.

The secret lies in fact, in the strength of the elements between two partners, and what they need in their partner's chart to eliminate unwanted competitors who would ruin a marriage. I hope that my explanations and the examples I have given you are clear enough for you, to help you understand how the Bazi of two partners can work together in the long term.

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I suppose that right now, during the Gui Si period, when the earthly branch Si of my hour and my Lu body in Mangpai combines with the earthly branch You in my month, I am recovering the wealth that was taken by my father's second wife for her children ? And Gui clashes with Ding and cools Bing in the year, which means the loss of half-brothers and sisters?

I rather have the impression that the year 2026 of Bing Wu will activate my nobleman You and remove the seals, thus my father's second wife, who was born in a Bing Wu year, on 21 December 1966 at 11:55 p.m. Paris time (her birth time is Yi Hai, Day Jia Yin, Geng Zi month and Bing Wu Year). Bing Wu year of 2026, is the Tai Sui of my father's second wife, and I do not think it will be positive for her in her Wood Horse cycle, Jia Wu.

===>Thank you for this additional context. It deeply clarifies how the Fu Yin and the elemental interactions have played out in your life. Your personal experience is a textbook example of these energies manifesting.

Let's address your new question about returning to studies.

The Fu Yin and Family Dynamics - A Recap

Your confirmation is crucial. The Fu Yin (Bing Yin in Year and Day) directly represents this repetitive conflict and competition:
•   The Bing Fire represents yourself, your siblings (Bi Jian), and the competitive nature.

•   The Yin (Tiger) contains Jia Wood (your Indirect Resource, meaning your mother), Bing Fire (you/siblings), and Wu Earth (Intelligence, meaning your ideas/skills).

•   The Fu Yin creates a scenario where this "self and family" unit is under constant pressure and repetition. The intense Wood (Jia) and Fire (Bing) cycles of the Wood Horse and Goat years acted like pouring fuel on this fire, exacerbating the competition for resources (money for studies) between your mother and your father's second wife. The Resource star (Wood) was so overwhelming that it created pressure rather than support for your studies.

Returning to University Studies: Timing and Analysis

In Bazi, studying is represented by the Indirect Resource star (印), which is the Wood element in your chart (Jia, Yi). For a strong Day Master like you, this star is a double-edged sword:
•   Normally, it's positive: It represents knowledge, academic credentials, and mental growth.

•   For a strong Fire like you, it can be negative: When it's too strong, it causes stress, pressure, and a feeling of being overwhelmed with information, making focused study difficult. This is what happened during those difficult Wood years.

The goal is to study when the Wood element is present but controlled, or when the elements that you truly desire are strong, allowing you to absorb knowledge without the associated stress.

Your Current Luck Cycle: Gui Si (Water Snake) -  ~Age 30-40
This cycle is excellent for applying knowledge, career advancement, and gaining recognition (the Water Officer star). The Si (Snake) hour pillar is activated, which contains your hidden Yi Wood (Resource). This means the "stress" of studying can be channeled productively into a specific skill set that enhances your career. This is a very good time to study something directly related to your professional goals.

The Ideal Time to Start Online Courses:

1.  2024 (Jia Chen - Wood Dragon) - The Preparation Year:
    ◦   This is an excellent year for planning and enrolling. The Jia Wood (Resource) is on the surface, representing the "idea" of studying. The Chen (Dragon) combines with your You (Rooster) month, which is your Wealth star. This alignment suggests that the studies you choose will have a clear and beneficial connection to your financial or career prospects. Start researching programs now.

2.  2025 (Yi Si - Wood Snake) - The Activation Year:
    ◦   This is arguably the best year to commence your studies. The Yi Wood (Resource) appears, and the Si (Snake) branch is the same as your hour pillar, strongly activating your personal "treasure chest" of knowledge and skills.

    ◦   The Yi Wood is softer and more manageable than the overwhelming Jia Wood of the past. It represents a more focused, specialized type of learning. Combined with the favorable Gui Si luck cycle, you will be able to handle the coursework effectively and see its immediate value.

3.  2026 (Bing Wu - Fire Horse) - A Year to Avoid Starting:
    ◦   This is a year of extremely strong Fire (Bing + Wu). This is a Bi Jian (Competitive Peer) year, bringing a lot of social activity, distractions, and internal pressure. Your focus will be low, and the urge to compete or engage in other activities will be high. It is not a conducive energy for starting a new academic endeavor. If you start in 2025, 2026 might be a challenging year to maintain momentum, but you will have a head start.

Looking Ahead: The Ren Chen (Water Dragon) Cycle - ~Age 40-50
This upcoming cycle is powerful for career and authority (7-Kill star). The Dragon continues to combine with your Wealth star. Studying during this cycle would be for advanced specialization, leadership training, or an MBA—something that consolidates your authority and status. The Water Dragon powerfully controls the excessive Fire in your chart, creating discipline and a perfect environment for mastering complex subjects.

Conclusion and Recommendation

Yes, you can and should go back to university courses online. The energies are aligning favorably for you.

•   Best Window to Act: Initiate your search and enrollment in 2024 (Jia Chen). Aim to begin your coursework in 2025 (Yi Si).

•   Focus: Choose a field of study that has a direct and practical application to the career advancements you are experiencing in your Gui Si luck cycle. This will ensure the knowledge is absorbed efficiently and translates into tangible success.

•   Avoid starting new programs in 2026. Use that year for application and social energy, not for academic beginnings.

Your chart shows a person who is built for mastery and leadership. The initial difficulties in study were due to an imbalance of energy. Now that you are in a cycle that provides the necessary control (Water) and activates your hidden resources, pursuing further education is not just possible; it is a powerful step towards fulfilling your potential.

I wish you the very best in this endeavor and hope the situation with your family finds a peaceful resolution.

[Ragdoll]

@smsek

Thank you for your analysis and advice. What about starting a family with children, knowing that I am a woman ? I think that the fire of Bing Wu in 2026 is favourable for producing strong earth, and the same goes for Ding Wei, which is the fire that produces earth, my output/children. Wu Shen (2028) and Ji You (2029) are favourable years for children too. Is that correct?

My husband is Ren Shen Hour, Jia Chen day, Ren Chen month and Bing Yin Year. His current cycle is Bing Shen and his next cycle is Ding You.