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Offline duesouth

Wild Crane Series: ZSBY-2. Ch.3
« on: February 24, 2026, 04:21:01 AM »
Please find attached my pdf-ed translation of Zengshan Buyi?s Chapter 3:
?   [Chapter 3] Eight Palaces? 64 Gu? Names 八宮六十四卦名

Hexagram and trigram names and identifiers
I adopted the hexagram (gu?) and trigram names used by Joey Yap, except I use ?Lake? instead of ?Marsh?.

To assist readers in their search of hexagrams, I inserted hexagram identifiers taking the form of (letter)/(letter) to denote the upper trigram over the lower trigram e.g. X/L = Wind over Lake (see ZSBY-0 pdf on terminology).

The letters are:
[E] ☷ Kun 坤 as Earth 地
[F] ☲ Lu 離 as Fire 火
[H] ☰ Qian 乾 as Heaven 天
[L] ☱ Dui 兑 as Lake 澤
[M] ☶ Gen 艮 as Mountain 山
[T] ☳ Zhen 震 as Thunder 雷
[W] ☵ Kan 坎 as Water 水
[X] ☴ Xun 巽 as Wind 風

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Online Random88

Re: Wild Crane Series: ZSBY-2. Ch.3
« Reply #1 on: Today at 10:03:14 AM »
Divining about guarding against anxieties. If obtain Son-Daughter holding Subject, need
not worry. [If] Officer-Ghost holds Subject, doubts are difficult to resolve.


Basically if the Self line is Offspring/Child - nothing much going on, so one doesn't need to worry. If its Officer, then one is clearly worried.

Is this true... In my humble view, its not. If one Self line is Offspring/Child and Officer is clashing him from the Month, the idea there is no need to worry is not very suited to the actual situation.

As far as I'm aware the Self line is our current state in time of asking, the fact one is not worried when asking, doesn't mean he won't be as soon as the situation progresses.

Here we can say that if that change is suppose to happen the Self line should move and change to Officer or something... But if we have very weak Offspring/Child line being clashed with extremly strong Officer or even Parent line, this would provide overall Image of problems/worries etc. even if the Self doesn't change its relation to the situation.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:12:23 AM by Random88 »

Offline ren

Re: Wild Crane Series: ZSBY-2. Ch.3
« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:51:22 PM »
Hey Random88,

From what I have read of this section, it sounds like a simplified way of using the Liu Yao setting, with the Self line.
It goes through ?Four Matter? scenarios and uses Offspring, Wealth, Officer, Sibling, or Six Clash to determine auspicious or inauspiciousness.
It does not use the five element interactions, combos, clashes etc. No change lines.
If I am reading this correctly; as described in this method, if either Officer or Offspring, Wealth or Sibling are not on the subject one can divine again (cast a new hexagram).

Interesting stuff.

Ren




Online Random88

Re: Wild Crane Series: ZSBY-2. Ch.3
« Reply #3 on: Today at 03:06:54 PM »
Yea, but I don't think the system will adhere to it. If a problem comes from outside, will override the idea we can just look at the relation on the Self line.
Because I used something very similar, only it was strength related, but still wasn't looking much at other stuff and only at Self line... And while in general it works somewhat, its not very reliable, as if there is a lot of the opposite that is going on, one isn't suppose to just ignore it.

So overall, I get the idea, it can be very useful if it worked, but I don't think it will work reliably.